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Wednesday, 12 May 1965
End of Season Tour Match

West Germany 0 England 1 [0-1]


Match Summary
West Germany Squad
England Squad

Städtisches Stadion, Dutzendteich, Nürnberg, Bayern
Attendance: 60,000/70,000;
Kick-off: 6.00pm BST
Second half live on BBC One (England) -
Commentator: Kenneth Wolstenholme

England - Terry Paine (37)
Results 1960-1965

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Match Summary

Officials from Hungary

West Germany



Referee (-) - István Zsolt
43, (28 June 1921), Budapest

Linesmen - Sándor Petry and Tibor Wottava

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West Germany Team



No official ranking system established;
ELO rating 9th to 10th
Colours: White jerseys, black shorts, black socks
Capt: Willi Schulz Manager: Helmut Schön
West Germany Lineup
  Tilkowski, Hans     G     GA
2 Piontek, Josef E.H.     RB      
3 Höttges, Horst-Dieter     LB      
4 Schulz, Willi     RHB      
5 Sieloff, Klaus-Dieter     CHB      
6 Lorenz, Max, off 42nd min.     LHB      
7 Thielen, Karl-Heinz     OR      
8 Krämer, Werner     IR      
9 Rodekamp, Walter     CF      
10 Overath, Wofgang     IL      
11 Hornig, Heinz     OL      
West Germany Substitutes
  Steinmann, Heinz, on 42nd min. for Lorenz            

unused substitutes:

- -


Age - Appearances/Goals - -


England Team



No official ranking system established;
ELO rating 4th
Colours: The 1962 Bukta away jersey - Red v-necked short-sleeved continental jerseys, white shorts, white socks.
Capt: Bobby Moore, thirteenth captaincy Manager: Alfred Ernest Ramsey, 45 (22 January 1920), appointed 25 October 1962, effective part-time 31 December, full from May 1963.
25th match, W 14 - D 6 - L 5 - F 67 - A 39.
England Lineup
  Banks, Gordon     G Leicester City FC 18 23ᵍᵃ
2 Cohen, George     RB Fulham FC 13 0
3 Wilson, Ramon 30 17 December 1934 LB Everton FC 34 0
4 Flowers, Ronald 30 28 July 1934 LM Wolverhampton Wanderers FC 48 10
5 Charlton, John     CD Leeds United AFC 4 0
6 Moore, Robert F.C. 24 12 April 1941 CD West Ham United FC 30 0
7 Paine, Terence L. 26 23 March 1939 OR Southampton FC 13 7
8 Ball, Alan     RM Blackpool FC 2 0
838 9 Jones, Michael D. 20 24 April 1945 CF Sheffield United FC 1 0
10 Eastham, George     CM Arsenal FC 15 1
839 11 Temple, Derek W. 26 13 November 1938 OL Everton FC 1 0
only cap 1965

unused substitutes:

4-3-3 Banks -
Cohen, J.Charlton, Moore, Wilson -
Ball, Eastham, Flowers -
Paine, Jones, Temple.


Age - Appearances/Goals - -


    Match Report by Mike Payne


    Match Report by Norman Giller

Derek Temple, Everton's flying winger, was called into England's injury-weakened side for what was his only cap. It was his surging run and cross that laid on the winning goal for Terry Paine in the thirty-seventh minute. Alf Ramsey experimented with a variation of a 4-3-3 formation, with Mick Jones leading the attack for the first time. This was the tenth meeting between the Germans and England and Germany were still seeking their first victory. A bit of old Fleet Street comment here in a way of explanation. There was a small group of football writers on the national newspapers (Brian Glanville, Geoffrey Green, David Miller, Clive Toye, Ken Jones and Brian James chief among them) who battled with their sports editors to get teams laid out in the newspapers in the new style of play. For instance, this team should read: Banks; Cohen Charlton, Moore, Wilson; Ball, Eastham Flowers; Paine, Jones, Temple. But the old school sports editors would not stand for it. 'Our readers will not accept the player in the number three jersey coming fifth in the line-up,' they would argue. So right up until recent times the player in the number three jersey would appear third in the line-up, even though there would be a back four of a right back, two central defenders and a left-back; and the number four or six player would invariably play in midfield. So most newspapers and their readers were stuck in the sand of the old days of 2-3-5, and it was a very slow process before fans were educated in the understanding of the new systems. Not Fleet Street's finest hour.

Source Notes

Original newspaper reports
Rothman's Yearbooks
Mike Payne's England: The Complete Post-War Record (Breedon Books Publishing Company, Derby, U.K., 1993)
Norman Giller
, Football Author