England Football Online
Players Index Page Last Updated
23 April 2024
 
 

Archie Turner

Southampton FC

 2 appearances, 0 goals

P 2 W 2 D 0 L 0 F 5: A 0
(actual pitch goals F 3: A 0)
 100% successful
1900-01

captain: none
minutes played: 110

Timeline
  Arthur Turner
Birth Tuesday, 9 January 1877, possibly in Lynchford Road, Farnborough, Hampshire
  confirmed by birth certificate ~ registered in Hartley Wintney April-June 1877
The 1874 Birth & Death registrations Act required all births to be registered within 42 days - why did it take 142 days?
Baptism 18 February 1877 in Farnborough
 

According to the 1881 census, four year-old Arthur is the oldest of three children to Arthur and Caroline Eliza (née Hall). They live in Lynchford Road in Farnborough. His father is a builder and undertaker.
 

According to the 1891 census, Arthur now has one more younger sibling, still living at home in Lynchford Road with their parents and a servant. His father is a now a general furnisher.
 

(His mother died early 1901)
According to the 1901 census, Arthur is now a professional footballer living with his widowed father and his three younger siblings. His father is an ironmonger and they all still live at Lynchford Road.
Marriage to Edith Jane Dorritty, Thursday, 21 April 1904 at Odiham Registry Office, Hampshire
  registered in Hartley Wintney April-June 1904
"MR. ARCHIE TURNER—MISS EDITH DORRITTY. Quite in keeping with his usual naturally retiring disposition, the marriage of Mr. Archie Turner, the well-known international footballer, with Miss Edith Dorrit, the fourth daughter of Mrs. Dorritty, of Newcastle, was celebrated in the quietest possible manner on Thursday of last week. The ceremony took place by special license at Odiham Registry Office. Although the fact of their marriage has not yet generaly become known, Mr. and Mrs. Turner have already received some handsome presents." - Aldershot News, Saturday, 23 April 1904
Children Arthur and Edith have two daughters together. Vera Dorritty (b.1905), Edith Caroline (b.29 January 1910) and Lilian Edith (b.4 December 1911)
 

According to the 1911 census, Arthur is now a shop assistant in a furnishings store, married to Edith and they have two daughters, Vera and Edith. They all live at 1 Westfield Terrace, in the Park Road area of Farnborough.
(His father died on 8 April 1913)
 

According to the 1921 census, Arthur, a married ironmonger, is at home with two of his two daughters (although there is no wife!). They live at Lynchford Road in Farnborough.
(His wife, Edith, died on 19 May 1922)
Death Saturday, 4 April 1925 at Lynchford Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, of consumption
aged 48 years 85 days registered in Hartley Wintney April-June 1925

Obituary
"Hants Cricketer Dead.—Mr. Arthur Turner, a Hampshire cricketer and footballer, has died, aged forty, at Farnborough." - The Daily Mirror, Tuesday, 7 April 1925.
"Death of Arthur Turner.
—FAMOUS EX-SAINT—
"Arthur Turner, the former Southampton and International outside-right, died at Farnborough on Saturday from consumption. 'This clever but unlucky forward,' comments 'Recorder,' in a 'History of the Southampton Football Club,' 'at once jumped into prominence, and displaying consistency well as brilliancy, he achieved the unique distinction of receiving his International cap in his first season in first-class football.' He also played for England against Ireland at the Dell, in 1901. Turner, who was possibly the finest outside-right in the country when he was with the Saints, was certainly the best player in that position the club ever had." - The Hampshire Advertiser & Independent, Friday, 10 April 1925.
Funeral
Wednesday, 8 April 1925
 St. Peter's Church &
Victoria Road Cemetery, Farnborough
"Many sportsmen attended the funeral of Arthur Turner, the well-known Hampshire cricketer and footballer, yesterday, at Farnborough. Turner, who was 40 years of age, played for England in 1901-2 as outside-right, and was a regular player for Southampton. As a cricketer he held the best batting averages for Hampshire for nine successive years. He was also one of the founders of the South Farnborough Athletic Club. Among the floral tributes yesterday was a cricket bat and ball and a huge harp. Turner lost his wife two years ago and never recovered from the bereavement." - Daily Chronicle, Thursday, 9 April 1925
Probate "TURNER Arthur of Lynchford-road Farnborough Hampshire died 4 April 1925 Administration London 9 April to Vera Dorritty Turner spinster and Harry Turner storekeeper.
 Effects £1109 16s. 2d." [2024 equivalent: £45,260]
Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] &

Playing Career

Club(s)		 Began his career with Aldershot North End FC from 1892 until 1894. Joined South Farnborough FC for six years and then Camberley St. Michael's FC. Following an unsuccessful trial with Reading FC, Turner signed for Southampton FC in late 1899, scoring 23 goals in 65 Southern League appearances. He stated his intention to retire from the game in February 1902 because of the pressure of his business. However, Derby County FC then signed him on 2 May 1902. Then Middlesbrough FC attempted to lure Turner for a £375 transfer fee, but instead, joined Newcastle United FC on 24 January 1903. Turner returned to the Southern League, firstly with Tottenham Hotspur FC, who had paid £150 for his services on 26 January 1904 and after making six appearances and scoring five goals, he left for Bristol City FC in time for the following season, and made just one league appearance before rejoining Southampton FC after a few months. After another thirteen appearances and one goal, he joined South Farnborough FC, where his club were fined for not registering Turner with the Football Association in November 1906.

League honours
34 appearances, two goals		 Derby County FC 1902-03 21 appearances, one goal
debut: 1 September 1902 Wolverhampton Wanderers FC 3 Derby County FC 0
 Newcastle United FC 1903 thirteen appearances, one goal
debut: 31 January 1903 Notts County FC 2 Newcastle United FC 2
last: 26 December 1903 Newcastle United FC 1 Sunderland AFC 3.
Club honours FA Cup runners-up 1899-1900, 1901-02;
Southern League winners 1900-01;
Individual honours None
Distinctions Brother of Harry (Farnborough FC & Southampton FC 1903-05).
Also played cricket for Hampshire County
Height/Weight 5' 8", 11st 4lbs [1900], 11st. 10lbs [1903].

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990].

England Career
Player number One of five who became 247th players (248) to appear for England.
Position(s) Outside-right
First match No. 68, 17 March 1900, Ireland 0 England 2, a British Championship match at Lansdown Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin, aged 23 years 67 days.
Last match
357 days		 No. 71, 9 March 1901, England 3 Ireland 0, a British Championship match at The Dell, Milton Road, The Common, Southampton, aged 24 years 59 days.
Major tournaments British Championship 1899-1900, 1900-01;
Team honours British Championship winners 1900-01;
Individual honours The South (one appearance, March 1900; withdrew in 1901)

Beyond England
After leaving the game, returned to Farnborough to join his father's business. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.251.


The Numbers
parties Appearances comp. apps minutes captain
2 2 2 110 0 none
The minutes here given can only ever be a guideline and cannot therefore be accurate, only an approximation.
P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
2 2 0 0 5 0 +5 0 2 2.5 0 100 +2
Both of his matches were played in the British Championship competition

Venue Record

Venue P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
Home 1 1 0 0 3 0 +3 0 1 3.00 0.00 100.0 +1
Away 1 1 0 0 2 0 +2 0 1 2.00 0.00 100.0 +1

Tournament Record

British Championship Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1899-1900 1 1 0 0 2 0 +2 0 1 2.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC 1900-01 1 1 0 0 3 0 +3 0 1 3.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC All 2 2 0 0 5 0 +5 0 2 2.50 0.00 100.0 +2

All Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 2 2 0 0 5 0 +5 0 2 2.50 0.00 100.0 +2
2 2 0 0 5 0 +5 0 2 2.5 0 100 +2

Match History

 Club: Southampton F.C. - two full appearances (110 min) F.A. International Select Committee - two full appearances (110 min)x

Age 23 trial  
one appearance  - The South vs. The North, 7 March 1900;

apps match match details comp res. rundown pos

1 68 17 March 1900 - Ireland 0 England 2
Lansdowne Road, Dublin		 BC AW [0-2] corner hit the crossbar or
 

one of five who became the 247th player (248) to appear for England
the second Southampton FC player to represent England

Age 24 trial  
withdrew  - The South vs. The North, February 1901;

2 71 9 March 1901 - England 3 Ireland 0
The Dell, Southampton (home ground)		 BC HW ▼(1-0) 20 inj. or
 


     

 
cg