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John
Veitch |
Old Westminsters
AFC & Corinthians FC
1
appearance,
3 goals on debut
P 1 W 1 D
0 L 0 F 5: A 1
100% successful
1889-94
captain: none
minutes played: 90 |
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Timeline |
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John Gould Veitch |
Birth |
Monday, 19 July 1869
at Coombe Wood, in Kingston Hill, Surrey |
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registered in Kingston July-September 1869. |
"VEITCH.— on 19th
July, at Coombe-wood, Kingston-hill, the wife of John G. Veitch, a son."
-
Morning Herald, Saturday, 26 July 1869. |
Baptism |
15 October 1869
at St. Luke's Church in Chelsea. |
"DEATHS |
...VEITCH.— On the
13th Aug., at Coombe-wood, Kingston-hill, after three years' illness, John
Gould Veitch, eldest son of the late Jas. Veitch, of Chelsea, aged 31." -
Maidstone & Kentish Journal, Saturday, 20 August 1870. |
"THE LATE JOHN GOULD VEITCH, F.L.S.
"Scarcely twelve months have elapsed since we had to record the
decease of Mr. James Veitch, the late indefatigable head of the firm,
Veitch and Sons, of Chelsea, and one of the foremost horticulturists of
our day. We have now the mournful task of chronicling the death of his
eldest son, Mr. John Gould Veitch, who was, like his father, a devoted
horticulturist, and who, although he has been taken from us at an early
age, will long be remembered as an intrepid voyager, and one to whom we
are greatly indebted for many contributions to the enjoyment of our
gardens in the introduction of valuable plants discovered in the course of
his travels, and also as a young man full of zeal and enterprise in his
profession.
On the 9th inst., hæmorrhage from the lungs, under which he
gradually sank, set in, and he expired on the evening of the 13th inst. at
his residence at Coombe Wood, leaving behind him a widow and two boys."
- Supplement to the Nottinghamshire Guardian, Friday, 26 August 1870 |
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(His father is also named John Gould Veitch,
of the leading horticulturist firm based in Chelsea, Gould & Sons, he died
13 August 1870 in Coombe Wood, aged 31 years).
According to the 1871
census, John G. is the youngest of two sons, and along with his brother
James, they live with their widowed mother, Jane (née Hodge), at 7 Charlwood Road in
Putney. They have two servants.
(His mother remarried on 7 March 1874 to Richard W. Ewer, of West
Dulwich).
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According to the 1881
census, John G. is now a pupil at Cranford College in Cookham, Berkshire. |
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Cannot be found on the 1891
census. |
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According to the 1901
census, John, a nurseryman is head of his own household, a servant and a
boarder, living at 10 Ashburnham Mansions on the Ashburnham Road in
Chelsea, where he still resided according to the Kensington & Chelsea
Electoral Register in 1903. London Electroral Registers place John at 3
Redcliffe Street in Feltham from at least 1900 until at least 1905. |
Marriage |
to
Dorothy Maud Le Doux (née Gregory), on 16
December 1903 at St. Mary's Bolton Parish Church in West Brompton,
London. Dorothy is a widow, living at 12 Clyde Street. John
himself lives at 26 Cathcart Road, both in Chelsea. |
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registered in Kensington October-December 1903. |
"VEITCH—LE DOUX— OnDecember
16th, at .St Mary Boltons, by the Rev. W. T. du Boulay, John Gould Veitch
to Dorothy Maud le Doux." - Evening Standard, Thursday, 17
December 1903. |
Children |
John and
Dorothy Veitch had one daughter together, Phyllis
Mary (b.11 April 1910) |
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According to the 1911
census, John Gould is a horticulturist married to Dorothy Maud and they
have one daughter, Phyllis Mary. There is also an older child, fourteen
year old Dallas Gerard, from Dorothy's first marriage. They have two
servants and they live at 66 Bankston Gardens in Kensington. Surrey
Electoral Registers state John is also living at 12 Lingfield Road in
Wimbledon since 1907 until 1912 and at 22 Homefield Road in Wimbledon
until his death. |
Death |
Saturday afternoon, 3 October 1914 at 22 Holmfield Road in
Wimbledon, Surrey |
aged
45 years 76 days |
registered in Kingston October-December 1914. |
"VEITCH.— On the
3rd inst., at 22, Homefield road, Wimbledon, John Gould Veitch, dearly
loved husband of Dorothy Veitch, aged 45 years." - Wimbledon
'Boro News, Saturday, 10 October 1914. |
Obituary |
"J. G. VEITCH DEAD "It is with much
regret that we announce the death of Mr J. G. Veitch, one of the most
famous amateur footballers of his day, who passed away on Saturday
afternoon at the age of 45 following a very long illness. Mr. Veitch will
be recalled as a member of the celebrated Old Westminsters and Corinthian
forward lines. In the art of dribbling Veitch was an adept, and in 1894,
when old boy football was in its zenith, he appeared in the England team
against Wales."
- The Daily News, Tuesday, 6 October 1914 |
Funeral |
Wednesday 12.30pm, 7 October
1914 at Putney Vale Cemetery in Wandsworth. Buried with his
stepbrother, Richard Cyril Ewer at Ashford Burial Ground, Ashford |
Probate |
"VEITCH
John Gould of 22 Holmfield-road
Wimbledon
Surrey
died 3 October 1914 Probate
London
7 November to Charles
Reynolds Scorer solicitor.
Effects £1496 8s. 7d."
[2023 equivalent: £141,435] |
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Dorothy Veitch died 20
September 1951 at Firfield House, Addlestone |
Source |
Douglas Lammings' An
English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] & |
Cambridge University Alumni |
VEITCH, John
Gould.
Adm pens. at TRINITY, Oct. 6, 1887.
s. of John Gould, of St. Vincent Lodge, Morden Road, Merton,
Surrey (and Jane Hodge), B. July 19, 1869 at Kingston Hill,
Surrey.
Sch:
Westminster. Matric.Michs.1887.
B.A. 1890; M.A. 1894. |
Football
(assoc.) 'blue,' 1888-91; Played for
England, 1894. Married Dec. 16, 1903, Dorothy Maud, widow
of Carl Richard G. Le Doux Died Oct. 3, 1914
at Wimbledon. |
(Record of Old Westminsters; The Times, Dec 5, 1916) |
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Playing Career |
Club(s) |
Attended and played for
Westminster School, making the XI in 1887. Went on to attend and play for
Cambridge University, earning his blue in 1888-91. By default, became an
Old Westminster. |
Corinthians |
between 1889-1898,
72 appearances, 63 goals. |
Club honours |
London Cup winners 1891-92,
1892-93; |
Individual honours |
None |
Distinctions |
None |
Height/Weight |
not known |
Source |
Douglas Lammings' An English
Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990]. |
England Career |
Player number |
One of three who became the
214th
players (216) to appear for England. |
Position(s) |
Inside-left |
Only match |
No. 51, 12 March 1894, Wales 1 England
5, a British Championship match at The Racecourse, Mold Road, Wrexham, aged
24 years
236 days.
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Major tournaments |
British Championship
1893-94; |
Team honours |
None |
Individual honours |
The South
(two appearances January 1888-January 1890) England's Top
Goalscorer three 1894 |
Distinctions |
None |
Beyond England |
No additional information, but his
census returns reveal that Veitch followed in his father's footsteps by
becoming a a very successful horticulturist. -
An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who.
Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.254. |
The Numbers |
parties |
Appearances |
comp. apps |
minutes |
| goals ave.min |
comp. goals |
captain |
3 |
1 |
1 |
90 |
3 |
30
min |
3 |
none |
The minutes here given
can only ever be a guideline and cannot therefore be accurate, only an
approximation. |
P |
W |
D |
L |
F |
A |
GD |
FTS |
CS |
FAv |
AAv |
Pts% |
W/L |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
1 |
+4 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
1 |
100 |
+1 |
his only match was a British Championship match and played at an
away venue |
Tournament Record
British Championship Competition |
Type |
P |
W |
D |
L |
F |
A |
GD |
FTS |
CS |
FAv |
AAv |
Pts% |
W/L |
BC 1888-89 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
=0 |
0 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
00.0 |
=0 |
BC 1889-90 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
=0 |
0 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.00 |
00.0 |
=0 |
BC 1893-94 |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
1 |
+4 |
0 |
0 |
5.00 |
1.00 |
100.0 |
+1 |
BC
All |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
1 |
+4 |
0 |
0 |
5.00 |
1.00 |
100.0 |
+1 |
All Competition |
Type |
P |
W |
D |
L |
F |
A |
GD |
FTS |
CS |
FAv |
AAv |
Pts% |
W/L |
BC |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
1 |
+4 |
0 |
0 |
5.00 |
1.00 |
100.0 |
+1 |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
1 |
+4 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
1 |
100 |
+1 |
Match History
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