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John Veitch

Old Westminsters AFC & Corinthians FC

1 appearance, 3 goals on debut

P 1 W 1 D 0 L 0 F 5: A 1

100% successful


captain: none
minutes played:


  John Gould Veitch
Birth Monday, 19 July 1869 at Coombe Wood, in Kingston Hill, Surrey
  registered in Kingston July-September 1869.
"VEITCH.— on 19th July, at Coombe-wood, Kingston-hill, the wife of John G. Veitch, a son." - Morning Herald, Saturday, 26 July 1869.
Baptism 15 October 1869 at St. Luke's Church in Chelsea.
"DEATHS ...VEITCH.— On the 13th Aug., at Coombe-wood, Kingston-hill, after three years' illness, John Gould Veitch, eldest son of the late Jas. Veitch, of Chelsea, aged 31." - Maidstone & Kentish Journal, Saturday, 20 August 1870.
"Scarcely twelve months have elapsed since we had to record the decease of Mr. James Veitch, the late indefatigable head of the firm, Veitch and Sons, of Chelsea, and one of the foremost horticulturists of our day. We have now the mournful task of chronicling the death of his eldest son, Mr. John Gould Veitch, who was, like his father, a devoted horticulturist, and who, although he has been taken from us at an early age, will long be remembered as an intrepid voyager, and one to whom we are greatly indebted for many contributions to the enjoyment of our gardens in the introduction of valuable plants discovered in the course of his travels, and also as a young man full of zeal and enterprise in his profession. On the 9th inst., hæmorrhage from the lungs, under which he gradually sank, set in, and he expired on the evening of the 13th inst. at his residence at Coombe Wood, leaving behind him a widow and two boys." - Supplement to the Nottinghamshire Guardian, Friday, 26 August 1870
(His father is also named John Gould Veitch, of the leading horticulturist firm based in Chelsea, Gould & Sons, he died 13 August 1870 in Coombe Wood, aged 31 years).
According to the 1871 census, John G. is the youngest of two sons, and along with his brother James, they live with their widowed mother, Jane (née Hodge), at 7 Charlwood Road in Putney. They have two servants.
(His mother remarried on 7 March 1874 to Richard W. Ewer, of West Dulwich).

According to the 1881 census, John G. is now a pupil at Cranford College in Cookham, Berkshire.


Cannot be found on the 1891 census.


According to the 1901 census, John, a nurseryman is head of his own household, a servant and a boarder, living at 10 Ashburnham Mansions on the Ashburnham Road in Chelsea, where he still resided according to the Kensington & Chelsea Electoral Register in 1903.
London Electroral Registers place John at 3 Redcliffe Street in Feltham from at least 1900 until at least 1905.

Marriage to Dorothy Maud Le Doux (née Gregory), on 16 December 1903 at St. Mary's Bolton Parish Church in West Brompton, London.
Dorothy is a widow, living at 12 Clyde Street. John himself lives at 26 Cathcart Road, both in Chelsea.
  registered in Kensington October-December 1903.
"VEITCH—LE DOUX— OnDecember 16th, at .St Mary Boltons, by the Rev. W. T. du Boulay, John Gould Veitch to Dorothy Maud le Doux." - Evening Standard, Thursday, 17 December 1903.
Children John and Dorothy Veitch had one daughter together, Phyllis Mary (b.11 April 1910)

According to the 1911 census, John Gould is a horticulturist married to Dorothy Maud and they have one daughter, Phyllis Mary. There is also an older child, fourteen year old Dallas Gerard, from Dorothy's first marriage. They have two servants and they live at 66 Bankston Gardens in Kensington.
Surrey Electoral Registers state John is also living at 12 Lingfield Road in Wimbledon since 1907 until 1912 and at 22 Homefield Road in Wimbledon until his death.

Death Saturday afternoon, 3 October 1914 at 22 Holmfield Road in Wimbledon, Surrey
aged 45 years 76 days registered in Kingston October-December 1914.
"VEITCH.— On the 3rd inst., at 22, Homefield road, Wimbledon, John Gould Veitch, dearly loved husband of Dorothy Veitch, aged 45 years." - Wimbledon 'Boro News, Saturday, 10 October 1914.


"It is with much regret that we announce the death of Mr J. G. Veitch, one of the most famous amateur footballers of his day, who passed away on Saturday afternoon at the age of 45 following a very long illness. Mr. Veitch will be recalled as a member of the celebrated Old Westminsters and Corinthian forward lines. In the art of dribbling Veitch was an adept, and in 1894, when old boy football was in its zenith, he appeared in the England team against Wales." - The Daily News, Tuesday, 6 October 1914
Funeral Wednesday 12.30pm, 7 October 1914 at Putney Vale Cemetery in Wandsworth.
Buried with his stepbrother, Richard Cyril Ewer at Ashford Burial Ground, Ashford
Probate "VEITCH John Gould of 22 Holmfield-road Wimbledon Surrey died 3 October 1914 Probate London 7 November to Charles Reynolds Scorer solicitor.
Effects £1496 8s. 7d." [2023 equivalent: £141,435]
  Dorothy Veitch died 20 September 1951 at Firfield House, Addlestone


Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] &

Cambridge University Alumni
VEITCH, John Gould.
Adm pens. at TRINITY, Oct. 6, 1887.
s. of John Gould, of St. Vincent Lodge, Morden Road, Merton, Surrey (and Jane Hodge), B. July 19, 1869 at Kingston Hill, Surrey.
Sch: Westminster. Matric.Michs.1887. B.A. 1890; M.A. 1894.
Football (assoc.) 'blue,' 1888-91; Played for England, 1894.
Married Dec. 16, 1903,
Dorothy Maud, widow of Carl Richard G. Le Doux
Died Oct. 3, 1914
at Wimbledon.
(Record of Old Westminsters; The Times, Dec 5, 1916)

Playing Career

Club(s) Attended and played for Westminster School, making the XI in 1887. Went on to attend and play for Cambridge University, earning his blue in 1888-91. By default, became an Old Westminster.
Corinthians between 1889-1898, 72 appearances, 63 goals.
Club honours London Cup winners 1891-92, 1892-93;
Individual honours None
Distinctions None
Height/Weight not known


Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990].

England Career

Player number One of three who became the 214th players (216) to appear for England.
Position(s) Inside-left
Only match No. 51, 12 March 1894, Wales 1 England 5, a British Championship match at The Racecourse, Mold Road, Wrexham, aged 24 years 236 days.
Major tournaments British Championship 1893-94;
Team honours None
Individual honours The South (two appearances January 1888-January 1890)
England's Top Goalscorer three 1894
Distinctions None

Beyond England

No additional information, but his census returns reveal that Veitch followed in his father's footsteps by becoming a a very successful horticulturist. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.254.

The Numbers
parties Appearances comp. apps minutes goals ave.min comp. goals captain
3 1 1 90 3 30 min 3 none
The minutes here given can only ever be a guideline and cannot therefore be accurate, only an approximation.
1 1 0 0 5 1 +4 0 0 5 1 100 +1
his only match was a British Championship match and played at an away venue

Tournament Record

British Championship Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1888-89 0 0 0 0 0 0 =0 0 0 0.00 0.00 00.0 =0
BC 1889-90 0 0 0 0 0 0 =0 0 0 0.00 0.00 00.0 =0
BC 1893-94 1 1 0 0 5 1 +4 0 0 5.00 1.00 100.0 +1
BC All 1 1 0 0 5 1 +4 0 0 5.00 1.00 100.0 +1

All Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1 1 0 0 5 1 +4 0 0 5.00 1.00 100.0 +1
1 1 0 0 5 1 +4 0 0 5 1 100 +1

Match History

 Clubs: Old Westminster A.F.C. & Corinthians F.C. - one full appearance (90 min) F.A. International Select Committee - one full appearance (90 min)x
Age 18 trial  
one appearance - The South vs. The North, 14 January 1888;

apps match match details comp res. rundown pos

Age 19
36 2 March 1889 - England 6 Ireland 1, Anfield Road, Liverpool BC HW withdrew

Age 20 trial  
one appearance - The South vs. The North, 13 January 1890;

38 15 March 1890 - Ireland 1 England 9, Ulster Cricket Ground, Belfast BC AW withdrew

Age 22
u/o 19 December 1891 - England 6 Canadian-Americans 1, The Surrey Cricket Ground, Kennington Fr HW withdrew

Age 24
1 51 12 March 1894 - Wales 1 England 5
The Racecourse, Wrexham
BC AW 30 shot
55 passed
80 shot

one of three who became the 214th players (216) to appear for England  
the ninth Old Westminister AFC player to represent England
one of four who became the 48th Corinthians FC player to represent England
the 36th player to score on his England debut - the twentieth competitive
the fourteenth England player to score an equalising goal ~ England's sixteenth
the scorer of the 33rd brace for England ~ the fourteenth debutant
the scorer of the fifteenth hattrick for England ~ the tenth debutant
his three goals in 1894 makes him top goalscorer for the year/season