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Joe Bache

Aston Villa FC

 7 appearances, 4 goals
1 goal on his debut

P 7 W 4 D 3 L 0 F 11: A 6
79% successful
1903-12

captain: none
minutes played: 630

Timeline
  Joseph William Bache
Birth Sunday, 8 February 1880 in Beauty Bank, Stourbridge, Worcestershire.
  registered in Stourbridge January-March 1880
Baptism Wednesday, 3 March 1880 at St. Thomas' Church in Stourbridge.
 

According to the 1881 census, a very young Joseph W. was living at 82 Enville Street in Stourbridge. He is the youngest of four children living with his parents, Henry and Joyce (née Long). His father is a boiler maker.
 

According to the 1891 census, William J, now a scholar, was now living at 78 Enville Street in Stourbridge. Still the youngest of four children. His father is still a boiler maker.
 

According to the 1901 census, William J., now a Professional Footballer, still living at 78 Enville Street. The only one of the children living with his parents.
First marriage to Annie Elizabeth Dando, on 4 August 1902 at St. Thomas' Church in Stourbridge, Worcestershire. Joseph is stated as a footballer living at 36 Brook Street, Annie is a neighbour living at 29.
  registered in Stourbridge July-September 1902
Children Joe and Annie Bache had one child together, Joseph Edward (b.8 May 1903). Joseph was baptised on 27 May 1903, and they are living at 36 Brook Street.
  Annie Bache died, probably during, or just after, childbirth, on 8 May 1903, aged 23 years, and is buried in Stourbridge cemetery.
Second marriage to Rose Emma Devenport Brookes, on Monday, 3 June 1907, at St. Michael's Church in Cropthorne, Worcestershire. Rose is just nineteen years old.
  registered in Pershoe April-June 1907
"The marriage took place yesterday at St. Michael's Church, in the Worcestershire village of Cropthorne, of Mr. Joseph W. Bache, of the Aston Villa Football Club, to Miss Rose Brookes, daughter of Mr. Sydney Brookes, of the Bell Inn, Cropthorne." - Gloucestershire Echo, Tuesday, 4 June 1907
Children Joe and Rose Bache had two children together, Joseph William (b.3 October 1910) and Joyce Elizabeth (b.1912).
 

His mother died in early 1906.
Worcestershire Electoral Registers state Joseph William is living in a one-room furnished first-floor lodgings in Brook Street, owned by his father, in 1905, and had moved onto Baylie Street by, at least, 1910.
According to the 1911 census, Joseph William, still a Professional Footballer, is married and living with his wife of three years, Rose Emma, at The Lindens, in Baylie Street, Stourbridge. They are also the parent of their six month old son, Joseph William.
 
"BACHE AWARDED DAMAGES ...At the Pershore County Court, on Friday, Joseph Bache, the Aston Villa footballer, was awarded £10 damages against a market gardener named Abbott, for injuries in a trap collision. Bache's case was that Abbott was driving an inadequately lighted vehicle on the wrong side of the road, and collided with his trap, throwing him, his wife, and child into the road. His hands and face were cut and the injuries affected his skill as a football player." - Express and Star, Monday, 18 November 1912.
 

By 1914-20, the Worcestershire Electoral Registers state Joseph William is living at The Bell Inn, 21 Beale Street in Cropthorne.
According to the 1921 census, Joseph William, still a professional football player and still married to Rosa, with another child, Joyce. They live at The Butts in Great Comberton with Rosa's younger sister and their widowed mother is a visitor, confirmed by the Worcestershire Electoral Registers in 1921 and at Great Hampton House by 1924, and at 113 Two Gates in Cradley by 1935-39.
His father died in mid-1922.
  "Joe Bache, the well-known old Aston Villa player, who has been living at Great Hampton House, Evesham, until quite recently, is leaving England. Otto Nery, who is an official of the German F.A., has been in England for three months studying English and Scottish football, and is taking Bache to Germany with him, where he will act as player-coach to the Mannheim Football Club." - Evesham Standard, Saturday, 25 October 1924.
"ONLY CIGARETTES ...Burglars' Poor Haul at Home of Former Footballer.
"Although Joe Bache, the well-known ex-footballer, formerly of Aston Villa, who now keeps the Travellers' Rest, near Aston Cross, Birmingham, was visited by burglars on Friday night, so far as can be ascertained at present nothing was taken except about 200 cigarettes. It appears that between nine and ten o'clock, when the inn was at its busiest, the burglars forced one of the back windows of the private apartments, climbing on the flat roof above the smoke room to do so. When Mr. Bache went upstairs after closing time, he found articles of clothing strewn all over the floors; but all the money was in the safe, which had not been touched. Mr. Bache thinks that the intruders must have been disturbed." - Sunday Mercury,  20 March 1932..
  According to the 1939 register, Joseph W. and Rose E.D. are still married, living at The Travellers Rest, at 108 Aston Road North in Aston, Birmingham, where Joseph is the manager.
Midlands Elcetoral Registers states the three Bache's, Joseph, Rose and Joyce, are at The Travellers Rest in 1939, but also in Cradley, at 50 Parkside Road (until at least 1946).
His wife, Rose, died in mid-1950.
Death Thursday, 10 November 1960, at a Birmingham hospital. He was living at 18 Summer Hill Terrace, St. Paul's, Birmingham, Warwickshire, at the time.
aged 80 years 276 days registered in Birmingham October-December 1960

Obituary
"DEATH OF MR. JOE BACHE
"Mr. Joe Bache, who captained Aston Villa's F.A. Cup winning team of 1904-05 and who played for Villa from 1901 to 1919-20, died in a Birmingham hospital yesterday. He was 80. Mr. Bache, an inside forward and one of the finest footballers of his time, first played for Stourbridge, where he was born. He had his first trial for Villa just before his 21st birthday, and four years later he played inside-left for the cup-winning team of 1905. He was outside-left in the team which won the cup in 1913. He was also a regular member of the team which won the League Championship in 1910. He gained seven international caps. His last game for Villa was with the reserves at Kidderminster in April, 1919, but he returned to Villa Park as coach for a short time in the 1927-28 season. He left Villa to become player-coach to Mid-Rhondda F.C. at Tonypandy. For a time he coached Grimsby Town, and also coached Rot Weiss F.C. players at Frankfort. He is survived by two sons and a daughter." - Birmingham Post, Friday, 11 November 1960
"Funeral
Saturday, 12 November 1960
 Cropthorne Church
of Mr. Joe Bache.—The funeral took place at Cropthorne church on Saturday, of Mr. Joe Bache, who died in Birmingham earlier in the week. Mr. Bache had a distinguished career as a footballer, playing for Aston Villa in the years before the First World War. Family mourners were Mr. T. Bache, Mr. W. Baches (sons), Mr. R. Brooks, Mr. S. Brooks, Mr. G. Brooks, Mr. E. Mason, Mr. W. Cropper, Miss Houghton and Miss Haines were in church. The Rev. W. P. Wylie conducted the service, and Mrs. Cole was at the organ." - The Tewkesbury Register & Gazette, Friday, 18 November 1960.
Probate "BACHE Joseph William of 18 Summer Hill Terrace St. Pauls Birmingham died 10 November 1960 Probate Birmingham 29 March to Joseph William Bache sales director. Effects £260 12s." [2024 equivalent: £5,092].

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] &

Playing Career

Club(s)		 Began his career with Bewdley Victoria before joining Stourbridge FC. He joined Aston Villa FC for a £100 transfer fee in December 1900. He later became the Villa captain. He made a war-time guest appearance with Notts County FC. He joined Mid-Rhondda FC as player-manager in August 1920 and then Grimsby Town FC as player-coach on 20 July 1920 to 1921. After which he became a coach in Germany for four years, including a spell as player-coach with VFR Mannheim from October 1924.

League honours
436 appearances 168 goals		 Aston Villa FC 1901-20 431 appearances, 167 goals
debut: 16 February 1901 Notts County FC 2 Aston Villa FC 0
last: 28 April 1915 Newcastle United FC 3 Aston Villa FC 0
Grimsby Town FC 1920 five appearances, one goal
debut (division three (south)): 28 August 1920 Grimsby Town FC 2 Northampton Town FC 0.
last (division three (south)): 18 September 1920 Grimsby Town FC 3 Bristol Rovers FC 1

Club honours		 The Sheriff of London's Charity Shield winners 1901, FA Charity Shield runners-up 1910;
Football League Division One runners-up 1902-03 (25ᵃ 8ᵍ), 1907-08 (32ᵃ 24ᵍ), 1910-11 (32ᵃ 15ᵍ), 1912-13 (35ᵃ 9ᵍ), 1913-14 (28ᵃ 12ᵍ), Champions 1909-10 (32ᵃ 20ᵍ);
FA Cup winners 1904-05 (6ᵃ 4ᵍ), 1912-13 (6ᵃ 1ᵍ);
"By mutual agreement with Mr F. J. Wall the ball was presented to Joe Bache, the captain of Aston Villa at the close of the cup final." - Hamilton Daily Times, Saturday, 10 May 1913.
Individual honours Football League (seven appearances)
Distinctions Became a Referee in his latter years, namely the Birmingham Senior Cup Final in 1936
Height/Weight 5' 9", 11st. 0-5lbs. [1905], 5' 9½", 11st 8lbs [1910], 11st. 10lbs [1913].

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990].

England Career
Player number One of three who became the 285th players (286) to appear for England.
Position(s) Inside-left
First match No. 85, 2 March 1903, England 2 Wales 1, a British Championship match at Fratton Park, Frogmore Road, Southsea, Portsmouth, aged 23 years 22 days.
Last match
8 years 30 days		 No. 110, 1 April 1911, England 1 Scotland 1, a British Championship match at Goodison Park, Walton, Liverpool, aged 31 years 52 days.
Major tournaments British Championship 1902-03, 1903-04, 1904-05, 1906-07, 1909-10, 1910-11;
Team honours British Championship shared 1902-03, winners 1903-04, 1904-05, 1910-11;

Individual honours		 The North (two appearances, 1ᵍ, January 1904-January 1906);
The Stripes (one appearance, January 1910);
The Whites (one appearance, January 1911);
England trial (two appearances, November 1912-January 1913);
Goalscoring honours England's Joint-Top Goalscorer (two 1904);
Distinctions remained unbeaten in all of his seven appearances.

Beyond England
Like his father, Joe was trained as a boiler maker. After returning from Rot Weiss in Frankfurt, Germany, Bache rejoined Aston Villa FC as their second-team coach in August 1927 until July 1928. He was later employed as a licensee in Aston. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.17.
 "Founder of the firm of Bache and Hall, Limited, purveyors of footballs to Netland."


The Numbers
parties Appearances comp. apps minutes goals ave.min comp. goals captain
9 7 7 630 4 158 min 4 none
The minutes here given can only ever be a guideline and cannot therefore be accurate, only an approximation.
P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
7 4 3 0 11 6 +5 0 2 1.571 0.857 78.6 +4
All of his matches were played in the British Championship competition

Venue Record

Venue P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
Home 4 3 1 0 5 2 +3 0 2 1.25 0.50 87.5 +3
Away 3 1 2 0 6 4 +2 0 0 2.00 1.333 66.7 +1

Opposition Record

Opposition P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
Ireland 3 2 1 0 5 2 +3 0 1 1.667 0.667 83.3 +2
Scotland 2 1 1 0 2 1 +1 0 1 1.00 0.50 75.0 +1
Wales 2 1 1 0 4 3 +1 0 0 2.00 1.50 75.0 +1

Tournament Record

British Championship Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1902-03 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 0 0 2.00 1.00 100.0 +1
BC 1903-04 2 1 1 0 5 3 +2 0 0 2.50 1.50 75.0 +1
BC 1904-05 1 1 0 0 1 0 +1 0 1 1.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC 1906-07 1 1 0 0 1 0 +1 0 1 1.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC 1909-10 1 0 1 0 1 1 =0 0 0 1.00 1.00 50.0 =0
BC 1910-11 1 0 1 0 1 1 =0 0 0 1.00 1.00 50.0 =0
BC All 7 4 3 0 11 6 +5 0 2 1.571 0.857 78.6 +4

All Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 7 4 3 0 11 6 +5 0 2 1.571 0.857 78.6 +4
7 4 3 0 11 6 +5 0 2 1.571 0.857 78.6 +4

Match History

 Club: Aston Villa F.C. - seven full appearances (630 min) 4ᵍ F.A. International Select Committee- seven full appearances (630 min) 4ᵍx

apps match match details comp res. rundown pos

Age 23
1 78 2 March 1903 - England 2 Wales 1
Fratton Park, Portsmouth		 BC HW 12 il

one of three who became the 285th player (286) to appear for England
one of two to become the fifteenth Aston Villa FC player to represent England
the 53rd player to score on his England debut - the 37th competitive

79 4 April 1903 - England 1 Scotland 2, Bramall Lane, Sheffield BC HL withdrawn

trial  
one appearance - The South vs. The North, January 1904;

Age 24
2 80  29 February 1904 - Wales 2 England 2
The Racecourse, Wrexham		 BC AD 77 il
3 81 12 March 1904 - Ireland 1 England 3
Cliftonville Gardens, Belfast		 BC AW 12 65 il
 

his two goals in 1904 makes him =top goalscorer for the year/season
Age 25
4 85 1 April 1905 - England 1 Scotland 0
Sports Arena, Crystal Palace		 BC HW 78 25/35-yd top corner il
 

trial  
one appearance - The North vs. The South, January 1906;

Age 27
5 89 16 February 1907 - England 1 Ireland 0
Goodison Park, Liverpool		 BC HW   il
 

Age 29 trial  
one appearance - The Whites vs. The Stripes, January 1910;

Age 30
6 105 12 February 1910 - Ireland 1 England 1
Solitude Ground, Belfast		 BC AD   il
 

trial  
one appearance - The Whites vs. The Stripes, January 1911;

Age 31
7 110 1 April 1911 - England 1 Scotland 1
Goodison Park, Liverpool		 BC HD   il

Age 32
111 10 February 1912 - Ireland 1 England 6, Dalymount Park, Dublin BC AW replacement reserve
 

trial  
two appearances - The South vs. England, November 1912; The North vs. England, January 1913;


  

 
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