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Joe Bache

Aston Villa FC

7 appearances, 4 goals
1 goal on his debut

P 7 W 4 D 3 L 0 F 11: A 6
79% successful

1903-12

captain: none
minutes played:
630

Timeline

  Joseph William Bache
Birth Sunday, 8 February 1880 in Beauty Bank, Stourbridge, Worcestershire.
  registered in Stourbridge January-March 1880
Baptism Wednesday, 3 March 1880 at St. Thomas' Church in Stourbridge.
 

According to the 1881 census, a very young Joseph W. was living at 82 Enville Street in Stourbridge. He is the youngest of four children living with his parents, Henry and Joyce (née Long). His father is a boiler maker.

 

According to the 1891 census, William J, now a scholar, was now living at 78 Enville Street in Stourbridge. Still the youngest of four children. His father is still a boiler maker.

 

According to the 1901 census, William J., now a Professional Footballer, still living at 78 Enville Street. The only one of the children living with his parents.

First marriage to Annie Elizabeth Dando, on 4 August 1902 at St. Thomas' Church in Stourbridge, Worcestershire. Joseph is stated as a footballer living at 36 Brook Street, Annie is a neighbour living at 29.
  registered in Stourbridge July-September 1902
Children Joe and Annie Bache had one child together, Joseph Edward (b.8 May 1903). Joseph was baptised on 27 May 1903, and they are living at 36 Brook Street.
  Annie Bache died, probably during, or just after, childbirth, on 8 May 1903, aged 23 years, and is buried in Stourbridge cemetery.
Second marriage to Rose Emma Devenport Brookes, on Monday, 3 June 1907, in Cropthorne, Worcestershire. Rose is just nineteen years old.
  registered in Pershoe April-June 1907
Children Joe and Rose Bache had two children together, Joseph William (b.3 October 1910) and Joyce Elizabeth (b.1912).
 

His mother died in early 1906.
Worcestershire Electoral Registers state Joseph William is living in a one-room furnished first-floor lodgings in Brook Street, owned by his father, in 1905, and had moved onto Baylie Street by, at least, 1910.
According to the 1911 census, Joseph William, still a Professional Footballer, is married and living with his wife of three years, Rose Emma, at The Lindens, in Baylie Street, Stourbridge. They are also the parent of their six month old son, Joseph William.
By 1914-20, the Worcestershire Electoral Registers state Joseph William is living at The Bell Inn, 21 Beale Street in Cropthorne.

 

According to the 1921 census, Joseph William, still a professional football player and still married to Rosa, with another child, Joyce. They live at The Butts in Great Comberton with Rosa's younger sister and their widowed mother is a visitor, confirmed by the Worcestershire Electoral Registers in 1921 and at Great Hampton House by 1924, and at 113 Two Gates in Cradley by 1935-39.
His father died in mid-1922.

  According to the 1939 register, Joseph W. and Rose E.D. are still married, living at The Travellers Rest, at 108 Aston Road North in Aston, Birmingham, where Joseph is the manager.
Midlands Elcetoral Registers states the three Bache's, Joseph, Rose and Joyce, are at The Travellers Rest in 1939, but also in Cradley, at 50 Parkside Road (until at least 1946).
His wife, Rose, died in mid-1950.
Death Thursday, 10 November 1960 at his home at 18 Summer Hill Terrace, St. Paul's, Birmingham, Warwickshire.
aged 80 years 276 days registered in Birmingham October-December 1960
Funeral Saturday, 12 November 1960 in Cropthorne
Probate "BACHE Joseph William of 18 Summer Hill Terrace St. Pauls Birmingham died 10 November 1960 Probate Birmingham 29 March to Joseph William Bache sales director. Effects £260 12s." [2024 equivalent: £5,092].

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] &

Playing Career


Club(s)
Began his career with Bewdley Victoria before joining Stourbridge FC. He joined Aston Villa FC for a £100 transfer fee in December 1900. He later became the Villa captain. He made a war-time guest appearance with Notts County FC. He joined Mid-Rhondda FC as player-manager in August 1920 and then Grimsby Town FC as player-coach on 20 July 1920 to 1921. After which he became a coach in Germany for four years, including a spell with Mannheim FC from October 1924.

League honours
436 appearances 168 goals
Aston Villa FC 1901-20 431 appearances, 167 goals
debut: 16 February 1901 Notts County FC 2 Aston Villa FC 0
last: 28 April 1915 Newcastle United FC 3 Aston Villa FC 0
Grimsby Town FC 1920 five appearances, one goal
debut (division three (south)): 28 August 1920 Grimsby Town FC 2 Northampton Town FC 0.
last (division three (south)): 18 September 1920 Grimsby Town FC 3 Bristol Rovers FC 1

Club honours
The Sheriff of London's Charity Shield winners 1901, FA Charity Shield runners-up 1910;
Football League Division One runners-up 1902-03 (25ᵃ 8ᵍ), 1907-08 (32ᵃ 24ᵍ), 1910-11 (32ᵃ 15ᵍ), 1912-13 (35ᵃ 9ᵍ), 1913-14 (28ᵃ 12ᵍ), Champions 1909-10 (32ᵃ 20ᵍ);
FA Cup winners 1904-05 (6ᵃ 4ᵍ), 1912-13 (6ᵃ 1ᵍ);
Individual honours Football League (seven appearances)
Distinctions None
Height/Weight 5' 9½", 11st. 10lbs [1913].

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990].

England Career

Player number One of three who became the 285th players (286) to appear for England.
Position(s) Inside-left
First match No. 85, 2 March 1903, England 2 Wales 1, a British Championship match at Fratton Park, Frogmore Road, Southsea, Portsmouth, aged 23 years 22 days.
Last match No. 110, 1 April 1911, England 1 Scotland 1, a British Championship match at Goodison Park, Walton, Liverpool, aged 31 years 52 days.
Major tournaments British Championship 1902-03, 1903-04, 1904-05, 1906-07, 1909-10, 1910-11;
Team honours British Championship shared 1902-03, winners 1903-04, 1904-05, 1910-11;
Individual honours England's Joint-Top Goalscorer (two 1904)
Distinctions remained unbeaten in all of his seven appearances.

Beyond England

Like his father, Joe was trained as a boiler maker. After returning from Rot Weiss in Frankfurt, Germany, Bache rejoined Aston Villa FC as their second-team coach in August 1927 until July 1928. He was later employed as a licensee in Aston. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.17.


The Numbers
parties Apps comp. apps minutes goals ave.min comp. goals captain
9 7 7 630 4 158 min 4 none
The minutes here given can only ever be a guideline and cannot therefore be accurate, only an approximation.
P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
7 4 3 0 11 6 +5 0 2 1.571 0.857 78.6 +4
All of his matches were played in the British Championship competition

Venue Record

Venue P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
Home 4 3 1 0 5 2 +3 0 2 1.25 0.50 87.5 +3
Away 3 1 2 0 6 4 +2 0 0 2.00 1.333 66.7 +1

Tournament Record

British Championship Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1902-03 1 1 0 0 2 1 +1 0 0 2.00 1.00 100.0 +1
BC 1903-04 2 1 1 0 5 3 +2 0 0 2.50 1.50 75.0 +1
BC 1904-05 1 1 0 0 1 0 +1 0 1 1.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC 1906-07 1 1 0 0 1 0 +1 0 1 1.00 0.00 100.0 +1
BC 1909-10 1 0 1 0 1 1 =0 0 0 1.00 1.00 50.0 =0
BC 1910-11 1 0 1 0 1 1 =0 0 0 1.00 1.00 50.0 =0
BC All 7 4 3 0 11 6 +5 0 2 1.571 0.857 78.6 +4

All Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 7 4 3 0 11 6 +5 0 2 1.571 0.857 78.6 +4
7 4 3 0 11 6 +5 0 2 1.571 0.857 78.6 +4

Match History

 Club: Aston Villa F.C. - seven full appearances (630 min) 4ᵍ F.A. International Select Committee- seven full appearances (630 min) 4ᵍx

apps match match details comp res. rundown pos

Age 23
1 78 2 March 1903 - England 2 Wales 1
Fratton Park, Portsmouth
BC HW 12 il

one of three who became the 285th player (286) to appear for England
one of two to become the fifteenth Aston Villa FC player to represent England
the 53rd player to score on his England debut - the 37th competitive

79 4 April 1903 - England 1 Scotland 2, Bramall Lane, Sheffield BC HL withdrawn

Age 24
2 80  29 February 1904 - Wales 2 England 2
The Racecourse, Wrexham
BC AD 77 il
3 81 12 March 1904 - Ireland 1 England 3
Cliftonville Gardens, Belfast
BC AW 12 il
 

his two goals in 1904 makes him =top goalscorer for the year/season

Age 25
4 85 1 April 1905 - England 1 Scotland 0
Sports Arena, Crystal Palace
BC HW 78 il
 

Age 27
5 89 16 February 1901 - England 1 Ireland 0
Goodison Park, Liverpool
BC HW   il
 

Age 30
6 105 12 February 1910 - Ireland 1 England 1
Solitude Ground, Belfast
BC AD   il
 

Age 31
7 110 1 April 1911 - England 1 Scotland 1
Goodison Park, Liverpool
BC HD   il

Age 32
111 10 February 1912 - Ireland 1 England 6, Dalymount Park, Dublin BC AW replacement reserve
 


  

 
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