England Players - 160. Davie Weir

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Davie Weir	Bolton Wanderers FC 2 appearances, 1 or 2 goals one goal on debut P 2 W 1 D 0 L 1 F 8: A 4 50% successful 1888-90 captain: none minutes played: 180

Timeline
	David Weir
Birth	Saturday, 29 August 1863 in Aldershot, Hampshire
	registration not found
"Davie Weir is a compact, well-built athlete, who does not carry an ounce of superfluous flesh. It was with some diffidence he told me that he was born on August 29th, 1863, at Aldershot. 'Why,' I exclaimed, 'you are not even a Scotchman, after all.' 'Well, no. I am the son of an officer's servant. I was born when my parents were quartered at the great military depot, but from the age of 12 I was brought up in Scotland, at Coatbridge and Glasgow." - The South Wales Daily News, Friday, 9 March 1894, also the South Wales Echo. also appeared in West Cumberland Times, September. "Davie Weir is a Hampshire man. He was born at Aldershot" - Bournemouth Guardian, Saturday, 16 March 1889.
	Cannot be found on the 1871 England or Scotland census'. But we do know that his parents are John and Margaret (née Irvine)
	"Whilst a child he was conveyed to Ireland (Kildare), and it was in Ireland that the three young Weir's contracted scarlet fever, leaving only David to survive. However, at the age of 10 he found himself in the country of his forefathers, Coatbridge to be precise, and seven years later, he went to Maybole, an Ayrshire village devoted to the boot trade, an industry which attracted the attention of young Weir." - The Athletic News, Monday, 13 December 1909.
	According to the 1881 Scottish census, 18 year old David, a bootmaker, is with his father, John at the home of George Smith in Melness, Largs. His father is a servant, a domestic coachman.
Marriage	to Alice Ann Brownlow, Wednesday, 29 December 1886 at St. Paul's Church, Halliwell, stated as being a bootmaker.
	registered in Bolton October-December 1886
Children	Davie and Alice Weir had six children together. Among them, Eliza (b.1890), another Eliza (b.25 January 1893), Emma (b.10 August 1898) and Margaret (b.17 February 1901).
	According to the 1891 census, David is a licensed victualler, married to Alice Ann, living in the Richmond Inn (left), 16 Syndall Street in Ardwick. They have one daughter, Eliza, and one servant. (His two year old daughter, Eliza, dies and is buried on 14 March 1892 at St. Peter's Church, Halliwell. Even more tragically, another daughter, also called Eliza, baptised on 25 January 1893 in St. Matthew's Church in Ardwick, and buried on 2 May 1893 at the same church.)
	According to the Scotland 1901 census, David is now a shoemaker, and along with Alice, they live at 56 Whitehall Street in Maybole, Ayrshire. They have two more daughters, Emma and Margaret. (Alice Weir died in September 1906, aged 39 years, buried 1 October. The address at the time is 77 Eskrick Street in Bolton.)
	(His mother died in early 1908) According to the 1911 census, David and his two daughters, is living with sister, Mary, also a widow, with her six daughters, at 74 Hennon Street in the Halliwell area of Bolton. It is here stated that both David and Mary were born in Lisburn, Ireland According to Passenger Lists, 49 year-old David, a shoemaker, returned to Liverpool from Quebec on board the CPR Empress of Ireland on 31 July 1913. The same ship would sink on 29 May 1914, the worst peacetime marine disaster in Canada.
290020	According to his attestation on 30 March 1916, to join the Royal Engineers as a sapper, David, a shoemaker and widower of two children, was living at 25 Ivy Road in Bolton (he has giving himself a birthdate of 18 March 1870). By the end of his service, he had joined the Labour Corps. He was discharged on 7 February 1918.
290020	"David Weir at the front. "An old Bolton Wanderer in the person of Sapper David Weir is serving with the Royal Engineers in France, and is at present in the shoemaker's shop at the base in Rouen. 'I am quite well, and doing my bit,' he writes. 'I came down the line to this base for teeth; have had eight out, and am waiting for a new set. Had a lively time up the line under fire night and day for 13 weeks among the mud and shell holes. I have been here nearly three months, and likely to stay for some time, as my age is against me going up the line again. I watched a match on Sunday last between the R.E.'s and a team called 'Con. Camp,' which means the staff of the Convalescent Camp, which contains some class players." - Bournemouth Guardian, Saturday, 31 March 1917.
	Cannot be found on the 1921 census.
Death	Friday, 1 December 1933 at 184 Arnold Street, Bolton, Lancashire
aged 70 years 94 days	registered in Bolton October-December 1933
Obituary
"The death occurred at Bolton yesterday of David Weir (70), a former Bolton Wanderers player. Weir played for England against Scotland and Ireland in 1889." - Northern Daily Mail, Saturday, 2 December 1933. "David Weir, a former inside forward of Kilmarnock, who played on a New Year's Day match at Gayfield about 40 years ago for the Rugby Park team, has died suddenly at Bolton. He was 70 years of age, and caught a chill while watching Bolton Wanderers, his former club play a League match." - Arbroath Herald, Friday, 8 December 1933.
Funeral	Monday, 4 December 1933 at St Peter's Church, Halliwell, along with his daughters and his wife.
Source	Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] &
Playing Career
Club(s)	Began his playing career in Glasgow with Mayflower FC, before training and playing with Glasgow Thistle FC. After two seasons, he joined Maybole FC, in Ayrshire. As a 21 year old, Weir joined Halliwell Rovers FC and alternated his seasons with Bolton Wanderers FC for the next four years. Weir, who had become the club captain, then joined the newly-formed Ardwick FC in May 1890, as club captain, a year later, he helped them in the Football Alliance and a year after that, assisted them in their first Football League season, and after guesting for Kilmarnock FC on New's Year Day 1893, he returned to Bolton Wanderers FC the same month (after his daughter died!). He retired in 1895. He returned to Maybole FC.
League History 100 appearances, 39 goals	Bolton Wanderers FC 1888-90, 43 appearances 21 goals debut: 8 September 1888 Bolton Wanderers FC 3 Derby County FC 6. Ardwick FC 1892-93, fourteen appearances eight goals. debut (second division): 3 September 1892 Ardwick FC 7 Bootle FC 0. Bolton Wanderers FC 1893-95, 33 appearances ten goals debut: 11 February 1893 Burnley FC 3 Bolton Wanderers FC 0. last: 12 January 1895 Stoke FC 5 Bolton Wanderers FC 0.
Club honours	Manchester Cup winners 1890-91; FA Cup runners-up 1893-94 (2ᵃ).
Individual honours	Lancashire FA
Distinctions	Weir once scored all eight goals for Halliwell Rovers FC against Notts County FC.
Height/Weight	5' 8½", 11st. 9lbs [1894], 5' 7½" [1916]
Source	Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990].
Management Career
Club(s)	Managed Glossop FC between 12 August 1909 and March 1911.
League History 64 matches	Glossop FC 1909-11, 64 matches, W29, D12 L23. Finished sixth in Division Two, and reached first round of the FA Cup at both attempts.
Club honours	None
England Career
Player number	One of nine who became the 157th players (160) to appear for England.
Position(s)	Centre-half/inside-left
First match	No. 36, 2 March 1889, England 6 Ireland 1, a British Championship match at Anfield Road, Anfield, Liverpool, aged 25 years 185 days.
Last match 42 days	No. 37, 13 April 1889, England 2 Scotland 3, a British Championship match at The Surrey Cricket Ground, The Oval, Kennington, London, aged 25 years 228 days. ?
Major tournaments	British Championship 1888-89;
Individual honours	The North (reserve in 1890); The Blues (one appearance, March 1890)
Beyond England
His trade was a bootmaker, making his own football boots. After he retired from playing, he returned to Maybole FC as their coach, sometimes playing for them. And after his stint as manager of Glossop, he coached in Stuttgart from April 1911. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.264.

The Numbers
parties	Appearances	comp. apps	minutes		goals ave.min	comp. goals	captain
5	2	2	180	1 or 2	180 min or 90 min	1 or 2	none
The minutes here given can only ever be a guideline and cannot therefore be accurate, only an approximation.

P	W	D	L	F	A	GD	FTS	CS	FAv	AAv	Pts%	W/L
2	1	0	1	8	4	+4	0	0	4	2	50	=0
Both of his matches were played in the British Championship competition and at a home venue

Tournament Record

British Championship Competition
Type	P	W	D	L	F	A	GD	FTS	CS	FAv	AAv	Pts%	W/L
BC 1889-88	0	0	0	0	0	0	=0	0	0	0.00	0.00	00.0	=0
BC 1888-89	2	1	0	1	8	4	+4	0	0	4.00	2.00	50.0	=0
BC 1889-90	0	0	0	0	0	0	=0	0	0	0.00	0.00	00.0	=0
BC All	2	1	0	1	8	4	+4	0	0	4.00	2.00	50.0	=0

All Competition

Type

FTS

FAv

AAv

Pts%

W/L

4.00

2.00

50.0

Match History

Club: Bolton Wanderers F.C. - two full appearances (180 min) 1 or 2ᵍ F.A. International Select Committee - two full appearances (180 min) 1 or 2ᵍx

apps	match	match details	comp	res.	rundown	pos

Age 24
33	17 March 1888 - Scotland 0 England 5, Hampden Park, Glasgow	BC	AW	reserve

Age 25
35		23 February 1889 - England 4 Wales 1, Victoria Ground, Stoke-upon-Trent	BC	HW	withdrawn
1	36	2 March 1889 - England 6 Ireland 1 Anfield Road, Liverpool	BC	HW	17	ch

one of nine who became the 157th player (160) to appear for England

the second player from Bolton Wanderers FC to represent England

the 23rd player to score on his England debut - the seventh competitive

the eleventh England player to score an equalising goal ~ although it is England's thirteenth

2	37	13 April 1889 - England 2 Scotland 3 The Surrey Cricket Ground, Kennington	BC	HL	17?	il
unsure who scored the second goal.

could very well be the eighth player to score a goal each in his first two appearances for England

Age 26	trial
reserve - The South vs. *The North,* 13 January 1890;

38	15 March 1890 - Ireland 1 England 9, Ulster Cricket Ground, Belfast	BC	AW	reserve
39	15 March 1890 - Wales 1 England 3, The Racecourse, Wrexham		AW

trial
one appearance - The Whites vs. The Blues, 24 March 1890;