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Davie Weir

Bolton Wanderers FC

2 appearances, 1 or 2 goals (definately one on debut)

P 2 W 1 D 0 L 1 F 8: A 4
50% successful

1889-90

Captain: none
minutes played:
180

Timeline

  David Weir
Birth Saturday, 29 August 1863 in Aldershot, Hampshire [registration not found].
"Davie Weir is a compact, well-built athlete, who does not carry an ounce of superfluous flesh. It was with some diffidence he told me that he was born on August 29th, 1863, at Aldershot. 'Why,' I exclaimed, 'you are not even a Scotchman, after all.' 'Well, no. I am the son of an officer's servant. I was born when my parents were quartered at the great military depot, but from the age of 12 I was brought up in Scotland, at Coatbridge and Glasgow." The South Wales Daily News, Friday, 9 March 1894, also the South Wales Echo. also appeared in West Cumberland Times, September.
"Davie Weir is a Hampshire man. He was born at Aldershot" -  Bournemouth Guardian, Saturday, 16 March 1889.

Cannot be found on the 1871 England or Scotland census'.

  "Whilst a child he was conveyed to Ireland (Kildare), and it was in Ireland that the three young Weir's contracted scarlet fever, leaving only David to survive. However, at the age of 10 he found himself in the country of his forefathers, Coatbridge to be precise, and seven years later, he went to Maybole, an Ayrshire village devoted to the boot trade, an industry which attracted the attention of young Weir." -  The Athletic News, Monday, 13 December 1909.

According to the 1881 Scottish census, 18 year old David, a bootmaker, is with his father, John at the home of George Smith in Melness, Largs. His father is a servant, a domestic coachman.

Marriage to Alice Ann Brownlow, Wednesday, 29 December 1886 at St. Paul's Church, Halliwell [registered in Bolton, December 1886]. Stated as being a bootmaker. Alice died in September 1906, aged 39 years. They had six children together - four had died.

According to the 1891 census, David is a licensed victualler, married to Alice Ann, living in the Richmond Inn (left), 16 Syndall Street in Ardwick. They have one daughter, Eliza, and one servant. It is stated here that David was born in Aldershot.
According to Lancashire Parish Records, Eliza dies a two year-old, buried on 14 March 1892 at St. Peter's Church, Halliwell.
Even more tragically, another daughter, also called Eliza, baptised 25 January 1893 in St. Matthew's Church in Ardwick, and buried on 2 May 1893 at the same church.

According to the 1901 census, David is now a shoemaker, and along with Alice, they live at 56 Whitehall Street in Maybole, Ayrshire. They have two more daughters, Emma (b.10 August 1898) and Margaret (b.17 February 1901).
When Alice was buried on 1 October 1906, their address was stated as 77 Eskrick Street in Bolton.

 

According to the 1911 census, David and his two daughters, is living with sister, Mary, also a widow, with her six daughters, at 74 Hennon Street in the Halliwell area of Bolton. It is here stated that both David and Mary were born in Lisburn, Ireland
According to Passenger Lists, 49 year-old David, a shoemaker, returned to Liverpool from Quebec on board the CPR Empress of Ireland on 31 July 1913.
The same ship would sink on 29 May 1914, the worst peacetime marine disaster in Canada.

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According to his attestation on 30 March 1916, to join the Royal Engineers as a sapper, David, a shoemaker and widower of two children, was living at 25 Ivy Road in Bolton (he was giving himself a birthdate of 18 March 1870). By the end of his service, he had joined the Labour Corps. He was discharged on 7 February 1918.

"David Weir at the front.
"An old Bolton Wanderer in the person of Sapper David Weir is serving with the Royal Engineers in France, and is at present in the shoemaker's shop at the base in Rouen. 'I am quite well, and doing my bit,' he writes. 'I came down the line to this base for teeth; have had eight out, and am waiting for a new set. Had a lively time up the line under fire night and day for 13 weeks among the mud and shell holes. I have been here nearly three months, and likely to stay for some time, as my age is against me going up the line again. I watched a match on Sunday last between the R.E.'s and a team called 'Con. Camp,' which means the staff of the Convalescent Camp, which contains some class players." - Bournemouth Guardian, Saturday, 31 March 1917.
Death Friday, 1 December 1933 at 184 Arnold Street, Bolton, aged 70 years 94 days [registered in Bolton, December 1933].

Obituary

"The death occurred at Bolton yesterday of David Weir (70), a former Bolton Wanderers player. Weir played for England against Scotland and Ireland in 1889." - Northen Daily Mail, Saturday, 2 December 1933.
"David Weir, a former inside forward of Kilmarnock, who played on a New Year's Day match at Gayfield about 40 years ago for the Rugby Park team, has died suddenly at Bolton. He was 70 years of age, and caught a chill while watching Bolton Wanderers, his former club play a League match." - Arbroath Herald, Friday, 8 December 1933.
Funeral Monday, 4 December 1933 at St Peter's Church, Halliwell, along with his daughters and his wife.

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] &

Playing Career

Club(s) Began his playing career in Glasgow with Mayflower FC, before training and playing with Glasgow Thistle FC. After two seasons, he joined Maybole FC, in Ayshire. As a 21 year old, Weir joined Halliwell Rovers FC and alternated his seasons with Bolton Wanderers FC for the next four years. Weir, who had become the club captain, then joined the newly-formed Ardwick FC in May 1890, as club captain, a year later, he helped them in the Football Alliance and a year after that, assisted them in their first Football League season, and after guesting for Kilmarnock FC on New's Year Day 1893, he returned to Bolton Wanderers FC the same month (after his daughter died!). He retired in 1895. He returned to Maybole FC.
League History
100 appearances, 39 goals
Bolton Wanderers FC 1888-90, 43 appearances, 21 goals
debut: 8 September 1888, Bolton Wanderers FC 3 Derby County FC 6.
Ardwick FC 1892-93, fourteen appearances, eight goals.
debut (second division): 3 September 1892 Ardwick FC 7 Bootle FC 0 (one goal).
Bolton Wanderers FC 1893-95, 33 appearances, ten goals
debut: 11 February 1893, Burnley FC 3 Bolton Wanderers FC 0.
Club honours Manchester Cup winners 1890-91;
FA Cup runners-up 1893-94 (two appearances).
Individual honours Lancashire FA
Distinctions Weir once scored all eight goals for Halliwell Rovers FC against Notts County FC.
Height/Weight 5' 8", 11st. 9lbs [1894], 5' 7" [1916]

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990].

Management Career

Club(s) Managed Glossop FC between 12 August 1909 and March 1911.
League History
64 matches
Glossop FC 1909-11, 64 matches, W29, D12 L23. Finished sixth in Division Two, and reached first round of the FA Cup at both attempts.
Club honours None

England Career

Player number One of nine who became the 157th players (160) to appear for England.
Position(s) Centre-half/inside-left
First match No. 36, 2 March 1889, England 6 Ireland 1, a British Championship match at Anfield Road, Anfield, Liverpool, aged 25 years 185 days.
Last match No. 37, 13 April 1889, England 2 Scotland 3, a British Championship match at The Surrey Cricket Ground, The Oval, Kennington, London, aged 25 years 228 days. ?
Major tournaments British Championships 1888-89;
Team honours None

Beyond England

His trade was a bootmaker, making his own football boots. After he retired from playing, he returned to Maybole FC as their coach, sometimes playing for them. And after his stint as manager of Glossop, he coached in Stuttgart from April 1911. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.264.


The Numbers
parties Appearances Comp.
Apps
minutes Goals Goals Av.min Comp.
Goals
captain
5 2 2 180 1 or 2 180 min or 90 min 1 or 2 none
Minutes are approximation, due to the fact that many matches rarely stuck to exactly ninety minutes long, allowing time for injuries and errors.
P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts % W/L
2 1 0 1 8 4 +4 0 0 4.00 2.00 50.0 =0

Match Record

Venue & Competition P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts % W/L
Home venue
British Championship
2 1 0 1 8 4 +4 0 0 4.00 2.00 50.0 =0

Tournament Record

British Championship Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1888-89 2 1 0 1 8 4 +4 0 0 4.00 2.00 50.0 =0
BC All 2 1 0 1 8 4 +4 0 0 4.00 2.00 50.0 =0

All Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 2 1 0 1 8 4 +4 0 0 4.00 2.00 50.0 =0
2 1 0 1 8 4 +4 0 0 4.00 2.00 50.0 =0

Match History

 Club: Bolton Wanderers F.C. - two full appearances (180 min), 1 or 2 gls

F.A. International Select Committee - 2 full appearances (180 min), 1 or 2 glsx


Age 24
33 17 March 1888 - Scotland 0 England 5, Hampden Park, Glasgow BC AW reserve
  

Age 25
35 23 February 1889 - England 4 Wales 1, Victoria Ground, Stoke-upon-Trent BC HW withdrawn
1 36 2 March 1889 - England 6 Ireland 1, Anfield Road, Liverpool BC HW Start 17 ch
2 37 13 April 1889 - England 2 Scotland 3, The Surrey Cricket Ground, Kennington BC HL Start ?17 il
unsure who scored the 2nd goal

Age 26
38 15 March 1890 - Ireland 1 England 9, Ulster Cricket Ground, Belfast BC AW reserve
39 15 March 1890 - Wales 1 England 3, The Racecourse, Wrexham AW
  

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