England Unofficial Match No. 4 - Scotland - 18 November 1871

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1u/o vs. Scotland 2u/o vs. Scotland 3u/o vs. Scotland unofficial match 4 5u/o vs. Scotland official matches 1 vs. Scotland	Saturday, 18 November 1871 an unofficial International friendly England 2 Scotland 1 there is no half-time score
		The Surrey Cricket Ground, The Oval, Kennington, London Kick-off (London Time): 'shortly after three o'clock' Attendance: 650+ 'More in fact than we ever ever yet seen!';
		Charlie Alcock won the toss	Henry Renny-Tailyour kicked-off.
		[1-0] Robert Walker claims of offside from Renny-Tailyour
		[2-0] Robert Walker ten minutes after after a 'middle' by Weston
			[2-1] Lt Henry Renny-Tailyour a neat kick following a Lubbock mis-kick
	Played according to Football Association rules

Match Summary

Officials [umpires and referees are of equal relevance]
Umpires	Notes: Henry Lake (Hampstead Heathens), and Thomas Hooman, were in the original starting XI, but became unavailable in the week leading up to this match. They were replaced with Percy Weston and Jarvis Kendrick. Archibald Ruggles-Brise, the Eton college captain, was replaced on the day by Parry Crake, because of illness
Alfred Stair 26 (15 May 1845), Greenwich (Upton Park FC, England) Gilbert George Kennedy (Wanderers FC, for Scotland) - Andy Mitchell's First Elevens, page 40.

England Team

Rank	No official ranking system established;	Colours		not known
Captain	Charles W. Alcock	Selection		by Charles W. Alcock, 28.
England Lineup
	Alcock, Charles William	28 351 days	2 December 1842	-	Wanderers FC, Harrow Pilgrims FC & Upton Park FC
	Baker, Thomas Southey	23 142 days	29 June 1848	-	Clapham Rovers FC & Oxford University AFC
	Betts, Morton Peto	24 80 days	30 August 1847	-	West Kent FC & Harrow Chequers FC
	Crake, William Parry	19 280 days	11 February 1852 in India	-	Wanderers FC & Harrow Chequers FC
	Kendrick, Jarvis	19 5 days	13 November 1852	-	Clapham Rovers FC
	Lubbock, Edgar	24 269 days	22 February 1847	HB	West Kent FC & No Names FC
	Stephenson, Charles William	18 264 days	27 February 1853	G	Westminster School FC & Wanderers FC
	Thompson, Albert Childers	23 128 days	13 July 1848	B	Wanderers FC
	Vidal, Robert Walpole Sealy	17 76 days	3 September 1853	-	Wanderers FC & Old Westminsters AFC
	Walker, Robert Sandilands Frowd	21 189 days	13 May 1850	-	Clapham Rovers FC
	Weston, Percy	19 236 days	27 March 1852	-	Barnes Club

formation not known
Averages (Starting XI):		Age	21 years 350 days

Scotland Team

Rank	No official ranking system established;	Colours		not known
Captain	Henry Renny-Tailyour	Selection		by James Kirkpatrick, from London-based teams.
Scotland Lineup
	Crawford, Fitzgerald Hamilton	17 197 days	5 May 1854	-	Harrow Chequers FC, England
	Crawford, Robert Erskine Wade	19 74 days	5 September 1852 in Jersey	-	Harrow Chequers FC, England
	Elliott, Edward Hay McKenzie	19 353 days	30 November 1852 in India	-	Harrow Chequers FC & Wanderers FC, both England
	Ferguson, Harold Stewart	20 281 days	10 February 1851 in London	-	Royal Artillery FC, England
	Kirkpatrick, James	29 241 days	22 March 1841 in Canada	-	Civil Service FC & Wanderers FC, both England
	Lindsay, William	24 107 days	3 August 1847 in India	B	Rochester Club, Civil Service FC & Old Wykehamists AFC, all England
	Mitchell, Hugh	21 350 days	3 December 1849 in London	-	Royal Engineers FC, England
	Nepean, Charles Edward Burroughs	20 286 days	5 February 1851 in London	HB	Oxford University AFC & Old Carthusians AFC, both England
	Renny-Tailyour, Henry Waugh	22 40 days	9 October 1849 in India	-	Royal Engineers FC, England
	Smith, Arnold Kirke	21 209 days	23 April 1850	-	Oxford University AFC & Civil Service FC, both England
	Smith, Robert	23 201 days	1 May 1848	G	Queen's Park FC & South Norwood FC, England
reserves:		Gilbert G. Kennedy (Wanderers FC), as he wasn't called upon to represent Scotland, he officiated instead, and James Smith.

formation not known
Averages (Starting XI):		Age	21 years 345 days

TO THE EDITOR OF BELL'S LIFE IN LONDON.

SIR: Will you allow me through the medium of your widely-circulated paper to ask two or three questions relative to the football match played last Saturday at Kennington Oval, entitled "England v Scotland." In the first place, on what grounds do the gentlemen who played on the north country side call themselves representatives of Scotland? Secondly, are they recognised in Scotland as representatives of that country? Thirdly, is the match recognised in Scotland as a legitimate match between England and Scotland? I shall be obliged if any of your readers will enlighten one who at present, on the above question, is quite

IN THE DARK.

Match Report The Field, Saturday, 25 November 1871

THE fourth of the series of matches which have now become firmly established for decision twice during each season, under the auspices of the committee of the Football Association, took place at the Surrey Cricket Ground, Kennington Oval, on Saturday last. For some time previous to the day the interest of the partisans of the two sides had been increasing with the hopes of a contest worthy of the reputation of the players engaged. In this they were not disappointed, for the match was from first to last of a very attractive character; and the play, with the exception of a decided superiority on the side of England at the outset, so even as to keep the excitement of the on-lookers well sustained until the end. The weather was at the commencement in every sense favourable, with the air keen and bracing, and the ground in good condition, although during the latter part of the game the appearance of a slight fog rendered the post of a spectator very cheerless, and a steadily advancing frost hardened the surface of the ground, so that falls were dangerous to contestants. Scotland, for the first time since the institution of these matches, lost the services of A. F. Kinnaird and Quintin Hogg, and by the loss of the latter were deprived of a back whose place they found it difficult to fill worthily. On the other hand, England suffered by the absence of T. C. Hooman, though generally it was admitted that their eleven were, according to public form, superior to those of past years. The first success fell to the English in the toss for choice of positions, and, in the absence of any wind, their captain was reduced to accept a minor advantage in compelling the Scotchmen to play with the sun in their eyes. Shortly after three o'clock, Renny-Tailyour, who here assisted Scotland for the first time, sent the ball well into the heart of the English lines. Thence it was soon removed, and so desperately did the English eleven work at first that for a quarter of an hour their back found his post a sinecure, the fight being sustained entirely in the opposite territory. For some time with creditable success the Scotchmen resisted every attack, but at length a momentary slip gave an opportunity to R.S.F. Walker, and the downfall of the Scotch goal

followed. A diversity of opinion existed relative to the legitimacy of this success, as there was apparently some little reason for the objection of "off side" lodged by the Scotch captain; but the umpires supported the claim of the English, and the usual change of positions ensued. Here commenced a display of hard work on the part of the Scotchmen, which they maintained with remarkable persistency to the end. But luck was against them, and barely ten minutes had elapsed since their first reverse before some clever dribbling by P. Weston, and the subsequent judicious "middling" of the same player, enabled R.S.F. Walker to secure the second goal for England. Again, undeterred by their ill fortune, the Scottish eleven, who were led most gallantly throughout by Renny-Tailyour, Kirke-Smith, and Mitchell, continued to struggle on, and at last to some purpose, a mis-kick by E. Lubbock giving Renny-Tailyour a chance of outstripping his adversaries, and finally landing by a neat kick a very well earned goal for Scotland, to the accompaniment of well-merited applause. With this one achievement, however, rested the triumphs of the Scotch, and they were not able to do more during the rest of the game, beyond keeping their opponents well at bay, than once drive the ball almost into the centre of the English goal. Thus at half-past four o'clock victory remained with the English eleven by two goals to one. Practically the issue of the match was decided by luck, and it may fairly be stated that there were no tangible superiority on either side. The English had two chances, in both of which they were fortunate; while, on the other hand, the Scotch had an equal number of opportunities, one of which they were not able to utilise. For the English, except at the outset, the forward play was generally below the usual standard in point of individual performances, although the Eleven worked well in unison at times. Among their forwards the Scotch had two powerful representatives in Renny-Tailyour and Kirke-Smith, and the former was certainly the most prominent member of the two sides throughout.

Source Notes

Andy Mitchell's First Elevens: The birth of international football
original newspaper report
Douglas Lamming's A Century of English International Football 1872-1988
Douglas Lamming's A Scottish Internationalists' Who's Who 1872-1986

Mark Shaoul & Tony Williamson's Forever England: A History of the National Side
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