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Fred Forman

Nottingham Forest FC

3 appearances, 3 goals
two goals on his debut

P 3 W 3 D 0 L 0 F 19: A 3
100% successful

1899

captain: none
minutes played:
270

Profile

  Frederick Ralph Forman
Birth Saturday, 8 November 1873 at The Cottage in Aston-on-Trent, Derbyshire
registered in Shardlow October-December 1873
Baptism 1 February 1874 in Aston-on-Trent, by the Rector, James S. Holden
 

According to the 1881 census, the seven-year old Frederick R. is the third of four children, including Frank, to Ralph and Élise (née Kershaw), a French-born British subject. They all live on the Weston Road in Aston, Shardlow. His father is a farmer of 65 acres, employing two men and two boys.

 

According to the 1891 census, the family of six are all still living in Weston Road and his father is still a farmer.  Frederick is a signal engineer. They now have one servant.

"DEATHS ...FORMAN.—On the 2nd inst., at Aston-on-Trent, Ralph Forman, aged 54 years. Friends please accept this intimation." - The Nottinghamshire Guardian, Saturday, 11 June 1892
 

According to the 1901 census, Frederick R. is one of three, including Frank, who are living with their widowed mother, who is still running the farm on Weston Road. Fred himself is a signal draughtsman, and they have two servants.

Death Tuesday morning, 14 June 1910 at The Balcony, Ocean Avenue in Skegness, Lincolnshire, he had been battling illness for a couple of years and died of Phthisis Pulmonalis Exhaustion (Tuberculosis).
aged 36 years 218 days registered in Spilsby March-June 1910

Obituary

"DEATH OF FRED FORMAN
"Fred Forman, brother of Frank, and at one time outside right, and then outside left for Nottingham Forest, died yesterday morning at Skegness, after an illness extending over a couple of years. Fred Forman was 37 years of age, and after playing with Aston-on-Trent, Beeston and Derby County, as an amateur, he joined Forest in 1893, and in 1899 got his triple cap for England as outside left against Ireland, Wales, and Scotland. Forman, in his day, was a brilliant forward, and undoubtedly owed much to the early coaching of John Goodall. The deceased was unmarried."
- Sheffield Daily Telegraph/Hull Daily Mail, Wedenesday, 15 June 1910.
Funeral
 
Friday, 17 June 1910
St. Giles' Church, West Bridgford
"Funeral of Mr. F. R. Forman at West Bridgford.
"The funeral took place at West Bridgford yesterday afternoon of the late Mr. Frederick Ralph Forman, who some years ago occupied a prominent place in the realms of Association football. Throughout the last part of his career he was a member of the Nottingham Forest Club, and so excellent was his form at outside right that he obtained International distinctions. Not so long after he retired from the game Mr. Forman's healtrh broke down, and he passed away at Skegness on Tuesday last. Many friends and those who had known the deceased, who was of a most amiable disposition, assembled in West Bridgford Parish Church for the first portion of the burial service, which was takjen with music. The chief mourners were the members of the late Mr. Forman's family. The officiating clergy were the Rev. James S. Holden, rector of Aston-on-Trent, the Rev. P. Fleming, and the Rev. R. D. Weller, curate at West Bridgford. As the coffin was borne into the church the Marche Funebre was played, and the Dead March from 'Saul' as the procession moved to the graveside, and the beautiful hymn 'On the Resurrection Morning' was sung." - Nottingham Daily Express, Saturday, 18 June 1910
Probate "FORMAN Frederick Ralph of 4 George-road West Bridgford Nottinghamshire railway draughtsman died 14 June 1910 at The Balcony Ocean-avenue Skegness Lincolnshire Probate Nottingham 18 July to Frank Forman and James Henry Linacre builders.
Effects £2291 10s. 9d." [2024 equivalent: £223,389]
Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] &

Playing Career

Club(s) Spent his junior career playing with Aston-on-Trent FC and Beeston Town FC and joined Derby County FC as an amateur. Joined Nottingham Forest FC in 1894 and retired from playing in 1903.

League honours
160 appearances 37 goals
Derby County FC 1893 four appearances three goals
debut: 25 March 1893 Wednesday FC 2 Derby County FC 2.
Nottingham Forest FC 1894-1903 156 appearances 34 goals
debut: 22 September 1894 Nottingham Forest FC 2 Everton FC 3
last: 31 January 1903 Blackburn Rovers FC 2 Nottingham Forest FC 2.
Club honours FA Cup winners 1897-98 (6ᵃ);
personal best: FA Cup semi-finalist 1899-1900 (4ᵃ) & 1901-02 (4ᵃ);
Football League Division One fourth place 1900-01 (27ᵃ 6ᵍ)
Individual honours None
Distinctions None
Height/Weight 5' 10", 12st. 5lbs [1903], 5' 11", 11st. 6lbs [1903].

Source

Douglas Lammings' An English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990].

England Career

Player number One of four who became 242nd player (245) to appear for England.
Position(s) Outside-left (outside-right at club level)
First match No. 65, 18 February 1899, England 13 Ireland 2, a British Championship match at Roker Park Ground, Association Road, Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, aged 25 years 102 days.
Last match
49 days
No. 67, 8 April 1899, England 2 Scotland 1, a British Championship match at Aston Lower Grounds, Trinity Road, Aston, Birmingham, aged 25 years 151 days.
Major tournaments British Championship 1898-99;
Team honours British Championship winners 1898-99;
Individual honours FA Tour of Germany 1899;
Distinctions Brother to Frank Forman and uncle of Harry Linacre

Beyond England

A railway draughtsman by vocation. - An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who. Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.98/99.


The Numbers
parties Appearances comp. apps minutes goals ave.min comp. goals captain
3 3 3 270 3 90 min 3 none
The minutes here given can only ever be a guideline and cannot therefore be accurate, only an approximation.
P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
3 3 0 0 19 3 +16 0 1 6.333 1 100 +3
All of his matches were played in the British Championship competition and played at a home venue

Tournament Record

British Championship Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 1898-99 3 3 0 0 19 3 +16 0 1 6.333 1.00 100.0 +3
BC All 3 3 0 0 19 3 +16 0 1 6.333 1.00 100.0 +3

All Competition
Type P W D L F A GD FTS CS FAv AAv Pts% W/L
BC 3 3 0 0 19 3 +16 0 1 6.333 1.00 100.0 +3
All 3 3 0 0 19 3 +16 0 1 6.333 1.00 100.0 +3
3 3 0 0 19 3 +16 0 1 6.33 1 100 +3

Match History

 Club: Nottingham Forest F.C. - three full appearances (270 min) 3ᵍ F.A. International Select Committee - three full appearances (270 min) 3ᵍx

apps match match details comp res. rundown pos

Age 25
1 65 18 February 1899 - England 13 Ireland 2
Roker Park, Sunderland
BC HW 21 off post
52 put thro'
ol

one of four who became the 242nd players (245) to appear for England
the twelfth Nottingham Forest FC player to represent England
the 44th player to score on his England debut - the 28th competitive
the scorer of the 44th brace for England
his brother Frank also played for England in this match - the thirteenth set of brothers to do so - the eighth set to play in the same match - the first set of brothers to score in the same match

2 66 20 March 1899 - England 4 Wales 0
Athletic Ground, Bedminster
BC HW 55 dribbled
86
ol
3 67 8 April 1899 - England 2 Scotland 1
Aston Lower Grounds, Birmingham
BC HW   ol
 

With his brother Frank also playing for England in this match, they become just the second set of brothers to play together in three matches

Age 26
FA Tour of Germany 23 November 1899 - Germany 2 England 13, Athletik-Sportsplatz, Berlin
tour
AW ol
24 November 1899 - Germany 2 England 10, Athletik-Sportsplatz, Berlin AW ol
25 November 1899 - Austria 0 England 8, Stadión Letná, Praha AW reserve
28 November 1899 - Germany 0 England 7, Military Exercise Ground, Karlsruhe AW   rb
  


     

 
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