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Ben
Warren |
Derby County FC,
Chelsea FC
22 appearances, 2 goals
P 22 W 17 D
4 L 1 F 83: A 16
86% successful
1906-11
captain: none
minutes played: 1980 |
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Profile |
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Benjamin Warren |
Birth |
7 May 1879 in Newhall, Derbyshire [registered in
Burton-upon-Trent, Staffordshire, September 1879]. |
Baptism |
4 April 1880 in St. John's Church, Newhall |
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According to the 1881
census, Benjamin is the third of four children to Joseph Henry and Emily Sarah
(née Staley). His
father is a boiler maker. They live in Thorn Tree Lane in Newhall. |
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According to the 1891
census, Benjamin now has four more younger siblings, making him the third
of eight, and along with their parents, they still all live at Thorn Tree
Lane. his father is now a boiler maker and the publican of Thorn Tree Inn,
oon the corner of Thorn Tree Lane and Wood Lane in Newhall. |
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According to the 1901
census, Benjamin, a 21-year old boiler maker, is living at home with his
parents and ten of his siblings, he has four more younger siblings, making
him one of twelve. They live at 201 Union Road in Newhall. His father is
also still a boilermaker. |
Marriage |
to
Minnie Staley, on 21 October 1902 at Emmanuel Church, Swadlincote
[registered in Burton-upon-Trent, December 1902]. Warren
appears to have married his cousin. Minnie remarried on 6 February 1928
to Edgar Hall of Church Gresley. |
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According to the 1911
census, Benjamin is a professional footballer, married to Minnie, and they
have four children, Harry, Lilian, Maurice and Granville, they also have
one servant, living at Donard Villa at 18 Sunnyside in Newhall. |
"THE
ILLNESS OF BEN WARREN "Ben Warren is making excellent progress. The
injured knee has improved much quicker than was anticipated,
and he is now exercising it quietly to strengthen the muscles. It is
expected that in another three weeks he will be in harness again.
- The Evening Telegraph and Post, Wednesday, 22 November 1911.
"Ben Warren, who has been suffering from an
injury for some weeks, is lying seriously ill at his residence at Newhall.
A doctor is in constant attendance, and Warren's condition this morning,
when it was stated that brain fever had made its appearance, gave cause
for considerable anxiety." -
The Evening Telegraph and Post, Wednesday, 6 December 1911.
"Late last night the famous International half-back was slightly
better, and no immediate danger is feared". - Sheffield Daily
Telegraph, Thursday, 7 December 1911. "At a late hour on
Thursday it was stated that Ben Warren was still delirious. It was hoped,
however, that he had escaped brain fever". - Sheffield Daily
Telegraph, Friday, 8 December 1911. "There is little
improvement to record in the condition of Ben Warren. On inquiry,
yesterday, at his residence in Newhall, our correspondent learned that the
patient had passed a somewhat more restful night. The exact nature of the
illness has not been diagnosed. The trouble is mental rather than
physical, and a Nottingham specialist has been called in." -
Sheffield Daily Telegraph, Monday, 11 December 1911.
"Inquiries made on Saturday
night elicited the fact that there had been no material change in the
condition of Ben Warren, who is lying seriously ill. He has been removed
to a private nursing home at Nottingham." - Sheffield Daily
Telegraph, Monday, 18 December 1911. "No improvement is
recorded in the serious condition of Ben Warren, who is in a private
nursing home at Nottingham, and grave fears are entertained of his
recovery." - Sheffield Daily Telegraph, Wednesday, 20
December 1911 "Our Burton-on-Trent correspondent writes
that the report that Ben Warren has had a serious relapse, is without
foundation. The patient's relatives were informed yesterday that he had
passed a fair night, though he had been somewhat restless. Warren is said
to be making some progress, although from the nature of the complaint
recovery must be somewhat slow." - Sheffield Daily Telegraph,
Friday, 29 December 1911. "Yesterday's bulletin stated
that Ben Warren had passed a rather bad night. For several days there has
been no apparent change in the condition of the patient." -
The Derby Daily Telegraph, Friday, 5 January 1912. "Ben
Warren is still confined to a nursing home at Nottingham. He has not made
any great headway towards recovery, although spasmodic improvements in his
condition have been recorded." - The Yorkshire Post, Monday,
5 February 1912. "Mrs Harry Warren, mother of Ben Warren
(who is at present in a private hospital in Nottingham), died yesterday at
Burton-upon-Trent." - The Evening News, Saturday, 10 February
1912 "Ben Warren has been removed from Nottingham to an
establishment at Mickelover, nearer his own home. He is still far from
having recovered". - The Manchester Courier, Monday, 11 March
1912. "Yesterday morning, shortly before two o'clock, an
amazing incident took place on Derby Road, Nottingham. Attention was
attracted by a man in a nude condition crossing the open space between the
fountain and the general cemetery gates. A man who happened to be drinking
at the fountain also saw the mysterious figure, and was so alarmed that he
ran off full speed along Alfreton Road. Other men followed the figure down
Derby Road. The man was seen to be smoking a cigarette, and had nothing on
but a collar and tie. As he passed down Derby Road he saw the men and
shouted, "Good night, Jack." Anxiously they followed the nude man, and saw
him indulge in weird antics. He jumped about the pavement and roadway, as
though playing an imaginary game of football, and came back up the road
again towards the men. The men went up to the weird football player and
asked him what he was doing. He told them he was going to Trent Bridge to
play in a football match. He had to be there by 3.30. A police-inspector
arrived and, by persuading the unknown that he was being taken to the
football ground, induced him to go to the Guildhall, where he gave the
name as Ben Warren, of Derby County, and said that he lived at Derby. He
made several references to having played with Steve Bloomer and other
famous footballers, and, later, was recognised by a pressman as being the
famous half-back.
Warren's
pitiable position is explained by the fact that on leaving Derby County
Club a few seasons ago he went to Chelsea, and whilst there sustained
injuries to his head and elsewhere, necessitating surgical operations.
Eventually, he went to his home at Newhall, and afterwards to a public
institution at Nottingham, where he remained some months, and was reported
considerably improved. Warren, a week ago, was at Derbyshire County Asylum
at Mickleover (left), having been removed there from
Nottingham Private Asylum. It is believed that he escaped from Mickleover,
and walked to Nottingham, a distance of 20 miles." - The
Courier, Thursday, 5 September 1912. "BEN WARREN'S
RESTORATION "The many admirers of Ben Warren will be very pleased to
hear that not only is he greatly improved in health, but that there is the
best reason for hoping that he will be seen in first-class football again
during the present season. He is now in robust health, and apparently his
old self again. He now states that his intention is to remove to Chelsea,
and he is said to be preparing for his re-entry into First League
football. His relatives now declare that he has been suffering from
nothing more than a severe nervous breakdown." - The Evening
Telegraph and Post, Monday, 16 September 1912.
"Interviewed as to the accuracy of the statement that Ben Warren
is rapidly recovering from his illness and that he will soon be able to
play again for Chelsea, Mr. A.J. Palmer, assistant secretary of the
Stamford Bridge club, emphatically described the rumour as 'mere piffle.'
"I am sorry to say there is not the slightest truth in the statement. I
wish there was, but it is certain that Ben Warren will not be fit to play
for Chelsea this season, and personally I doubt whether he will ever again
be well enough to play first-class football. Please publicly contradict
the rumour." " - The Courier, Wednesday, 18 September 1912.
"BEN WARREN BENEFIT MATCH "At a meeting of the Management
Committee of the League, held to-day in London, Mr. McKenna presiding, a
request by Chelsea to select a representative team to meet a team chosen
by London's League clubs for the benfit of the wife and children, still
materially suffering in health, was immediately acceded to, and the
president instructed to complete arrangements." - The
Nottingham Evening Post, Monday, 9 February 1914 "The
benefit match for the wife and children of Ben Warren will be played at
Chelsea on April 27." - The Birmingham Daily Mail, Monday, 9
March 1914. "The team to oppose a Southern eleven
for the benefit of Ben Warren, the old international, at Chelsea, on April
27th, was selected as follows: Pearson; Crompton, Womack; Barbour,
Roberts, McNeal; Meredith, Shea, Osborn, Bache, and Henshall."
- The Nottingham Evening Post, Saturday, 4 April 1914 "The
Derby County full League team is to play in a match for the benefit of Ben
Warren, at Swadlincote, on 30 April, if another club can arrange to meet
them." - Birmingham Gazette, Saturday, 4 April 1914
"The Management Committee of the Football League met at Glasgow on
Saturday, Mr McKenna, Liverpool, presiding. The following eleven
was chosen to play against a team selected from the Football and Southern
League clubs, in London, at Stamford Bridge, on Monday, April 27th, in a
benefit game for Ben Warren:- Pearson (West Bromwich); Crompton (Blackburn
Rovers), Womack (Birmingham); Barbour (Derby County), Roberts (Oldham);
Meredith (Manchester United), Shea (Blackburn Rovers), Osborn (Preston
North End), Bache (Aston Villa), Henshall (Notts County)."
- The Burnley Gazette, Wednesday, 8 April 1914. "The
following eleven will represent the South against the North at Stamford
Bridge next Monday in the match which is to be played for the benefit of
Ben Warren's wife and family:- Molyneux (Chelsea); Shaw (The Arsenal),
Colclough (Crystal Palace); White (Fulham), Logan (Chelsea), Grimsdell
(Tottenham Hotspur); Walden (Tottenham Hotspur), Woodward (Chelsea), Davis
(Millwall), McFadden (Clapton), McNeil (Chelsea)." -
Birmingham Gazette, Monday, 20 April 1914.
"A match between players representing the
North and South was played at Stamford Bridge yesterday for the benefit of
the family of Ben Warren. There were 12,000 people. Changes were made in
each side, but good teams took the field, and an interesting struggle was
seen. Bache, the Villa captain, scored for the North after twelve minutes
from a beautiful pass by Osborn. The South forwards played well, and
McFadden, after missing one fine chance, equalised. The South showed fine
form in the early stages of the second half, the forwards playing
extremely well. Crompton deflected a shot from Davis, and on another
occasion Pearson, the Albion goalkeeper, saved from Davis. After
twenty-two minutes Grimsdell dribbled through, and though Compton saved,
Ford got possession and scored for the South, who continued to have the
better of matters. Woodward played well for the South. Result: SOUTH
2, NORTH 1.
- The Birmingham Daily Post, Tuesday, 28 April
1914. "Derby County took a strong side over to Newhall on
Thursday evening to play a team representing Past and Present members of
Newhall Swifts for the benefit of the family of Ben Warren. There was a
capital attendance and an interesting game, which was refereed by Mr.
Arthur Latham, was witnessed. Steven Bloomer appeared at centre forward,
and the members of the County team were Scattergood; Atkin, Skelton,
Barber, Hardman, Bagshaw; Walker, Coulter, Moore, Neeve. The Swifts had
requisitioned the services of Tremelling, Bowler, and Wileman, three of
their former players, in addition to Commander, Mansfield, Redfern,
Gulliver, R.Warren, T.Warren, H.Riddle and W.Warren. In the opening
exchanges the Newhall men exercised considerable pressure, but their
opponents were holding themselves well in hand, and the Swifts very rarely
became dangerous. Once T.Warren shot yards over the bar when well placed.
The home team at length were rewarded with a goal by Wileman, the shot
taking Scattergood by surprise. Derby County then asserted themselves,
Coulter heading into the net and equalising. The Swifts endeavoured to
regain the lead, and Wileman passed to R.Warren, who shot straight for
goal, but Atkin was in the way. At the other end Bagshaw brought Commander
to his knees with a fine shot. The County were having matters very much
their own way at this stage, and Walker scored a second goal. Moore added
the third, and half-time arrived with the County leading by three goals to
one. In the second half Moore got through again for the visitors and
notched the fourth goal, beating Commander completely, and the game ended
with the score—Derby County four, Newhall Swifts one."
- The Derby Daily Telegraph, Saturday, 2 May
1914. "At the final meeting of the committee responsible
for the arrangements in connection with Ben Warren's benefit match, which
took place at Gresley on April 20th, it was reported that after paying
expenses amounting to £2 9s., a balance of £39 16s. 2d. was
shown. The committee decided to make out a cheque in favour of Mrs. Warren
for £40, and the difference of 3s. 10d. was made up so that this
could be done. The balance sheet was as follows:—Receipts—Subscription
lists £16 6s. 8d., S.H. Evershed £1. sale of tickets £23
1s. 9d., gate money £1 16s. 9d., additional subscriptions by
committee 3s. 10d. Expenses—Printing 10s., R.B. Hall £1
3s. 6d., match expenses 15s. 6d., balance in hand £40."
- The Derby Daily Telegraph, Saturday, 23 May 1914. "There
has been some delay in closing the fund for the benefit of the dependents
of Ben Warren owing to the difficulty experienced by the Chelsea officials
in getting in the subscription lists and tickets. The total amount raised
is £610, of which £337 represents the gate money of the
benefit match and the rest subscriptions and sales of tickets. The amount
raised by Robert Crompton is not incuded in this total."
- The Nottingham Evening Post, Monday, 1 June 1914.
"The Ben Warren benefit fund amounted to £613."
- The Nottingham Evening Post, Tuesday, 7 July 1914. "Ben
Warren, who contracted pneumonia a fortnight ago, is making good
progress." - The Sports Argus, Saturday, 13
February 1915. |
Death: |
11pm, 15 January 1917 at his home in 18 Sunnyside, Newhall, aged
37 years 253 days
[registered in Burton-upon-Trent, March 1917]. Certified
insane on 4 September 1912. |
Obituary |
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"DEATH OF BEN WARREN.
"The death took
place late on Monday night of Ben Warren. He was one of the finest
exponents of the Soccer code in his day, and consistently found a place in
the English team at right-half. Just over five years ago mental trouble
put an end to his brilliant career, and unhappily there was never any
improvement in his condition."
- The Nottingham Evening Post, Tuesday, 16 January 1917. |
Funeral: on
20 January, at 3pm, in Newhall, interred in St. John's churchyard, Newhall
(left). |
Memorial: held at the United Methodist
Church, Newhall, on Sunday evening, 18 February 1917. A large congregation
was in attendance, including family mourners, representatives of various
football bodies and old personal friends. The Rev. G.D. Elwood officiated. |
Probate:
Left £1002 1s. 8d. to his widowed
wife, Minnie and solicitor, Alfred Henry Timms. |
Douglas Lammings' An
English Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990] & FindMyPast.com |
Playing Career |
Club(s) |
Played junior football in Swadlincote and Newhall,
before playing for his local club, Newhall Town FC and Newhall Swifts FC.
Derby County FC signed Warren in May 1898 as an inside-left, but moved to
right-half, to become one of the best in the country. County went to
Newhall to sign his brother, Dan. After 242
league appearances and nineteen goals, Chelsea FC then paid £1000
for him on 28 July 1908, beating other clubs to his signature, including
Leicetser Fosse FC and Manchester City FC. Warren refused the temptation
to move to London, instead, returning to Newhall after each engagement
with Chelsea. He missed the second half of the 1909-10 because of having a
cyst in his side. He was operated on in St. Thomas' on 21 December 1909.
Having completed 92 league outings, scoring four
goals, Warren sustained a knee injury that he
never recovered from on 28 October 1911. It was in a league match that
Chelsea won 4-1 at Clapton Orient FC,
"the merit of their victory enhanced the fact that Warren was a passenger
in the second half and had to be placed at outside-right.". |
Club honours |
FA Cup
runners-up 1902-03; |
Individual honours |
Football League
(five appearances) |
Distinctions |
Father of Harry
Warren (Southend United FC manager, 1940-56,
Coventry City FC manager 1956-57). The two testimonials held in
1914 in the name of Ben Warren, for the aid of his family, raised £653.
The equivalent of £67,000 in 2015. |
Height/Weight |
5'
8", 12st.
0lbs [1906 & 1908], 5' 4" [1912]. |
Source |
Douglas Lammings' An English
Football Internationalist Who's Who [1990]. |
England Career |
Player number |
One of
five who became the 312th players (313)
to appear for England. |
Position(s) |
Right-half |
First match |
No. 86, 16 February 1906,
Ireland 0
England 5, a British
Championship match at Solitude Ground,
Cliftonville, Belfast, aged
26 years
285 days. |
Last match |
No. 110,
1 April 1911, England 1 Scotland 1,
a British Championship match at
Goodison Park, Walton, Liverpool, aged
31 years 329 days. |
Major tournaments |
British Championship 1905-06,
1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1910-11; |
Team honours |
British Championship shared
1905-06, 1907-08, winners 1908-09, 1910-11; |
Individual honours |
None |
Distinctions |
Died five after Charles Smith |
Beyond England |
No additional information, but a
boilermaker by trade. -
An English Football Internationalists' Who's Who.
Douglas Lamming (1990). Hatton Press, p.261. |
Ben Warren - Career Statistics |
Squads |
Apps |
comp. apps |
Mins. |
| goals ave.min |
comp. goals |
Capt. |
Disc. |
22 |
22 |
15 |
1980 |
2 |
990
min |
0 |
none |
none |
minutes are an approximation, due to the fact that many matches rarely stick to exactly ninety minutes long, allowing time for injuries and errors. |
Ben Warren
- Match Record - All Matches |
Type |
P |
W |
D |
L |
F |
A |
GD |
FTS
|
CS |
FAv |
AAv |
Pts% |
W/L |
Home |
9 |
6 |
3 |
0 |
17 |
4 |
+13 |
0 |
5 |
1.889 |
0.444 |
83.3 |
+6 |
Away |
13 |
11 |
1 |
1 |
66 |
12 |
+54 |
0 |
4 |
5.077 |
0.923 |
88.5 |
+10 |
All |
22 |
17 |
4 |
1 |
83 |
16 |
+67 |
0 |
9 |
3.773 |
0.727 |
86.4 |
+16 |
Ben Warren
- Match Record - By Type of Match |
Type |
P |
W |
D |
L |
F |
A |
GD |
FTS |
CS |
FAv |
AAv |
Pts% |
W/L |
British Championship |
15 |
10 |
4 |
1 |
35 |
9 |
+26 |
0 |
7 |
2.333 |
0.60 |
80.0 |
+9 |
Friendly |
7 |
7 |
0 |
0 |
48 |
7 |
+41 |
0 |
2 |
6.857 |
1.00 |
100.0 |
+7 |
All |
22 |
17 |
4 |
1 |
83 |
16 |
+67 |
0 |
9 |
3.773 |
0.727 |
86.4 |
+16 |
Ben Warren
- Match Record - Tournament Matches |
British Championship Competition |
Type |
P |
W |
D |
L |
F |
A |
GD |
FTS |
CS |
FAv |
AAv |
Pts% |
W/L |
BC
1905-06 |
3 |
2 |
0 |
1 |
7 |
2 |
+5 |
0 |
2 |
2.333 |
0.667 |
66.7 |
+1 |
BC
1906-07 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
0 |
3 |
2 |
+1 |
0 |
1 |
1.00 |
0.667 |
66.7 |
+1 |
BC
1907-08 |
3 |
2 |
1 |
0 |
11 |
3 |
+8 |
0 |
0 |
2.667 |
1.00 |
83.3 |
+2 |
BC
1908-09 |
3 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
8 |
0 |
+8 |
0 |
3 |
2.667 |
0.00 |
100.0 |
+3 |
BC 1910-11 |
3 |
2 |
1 |
0 |
6 |
2 |
+4 |
0 |
1 |
2.00 |
0.667 |
83.3 |
+2 |
BC
All |
15 |
10 |
4 |
1 |
35 |
9 |
+26 |
0 |
7 |
2.333 |
0.60 |
80.0 |
+9 |
All Competition |
Type |
P |
W |
D |
L |
F |
A |
GD |
FTS |
CS |
FAv |
AAv |
Pts% |
W/L |
BC |
15 |
10 |
4 |
1 |
35 |
9 |
+26 |
0 |
7 |
2.333 |
0.60 |
80.0 |
+9 |
All |
15 |
10 |
4 |
1 |
35 |
9 |
+26 |
0 |
7 |
2.333 |
0.60 |
80.0 |
+9 |
Ben Warren
- Match History |
Club: Derby
County F.C. - 13 full appearances |
F.A. International
Select Committee - 22
full capsx
|
|
Age 26 |
1 |
86 |
17 February 1906 - Ireland 0 England 5,
Solitude Ground, Belfast |
BC |
AW |
Start |
rh |
2 |
87 |
19 March 1906 - Wales 0 England 1,
Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff |
AW |
Start |
rh |
3 |
88 |
7 April 1906 - Scotland 2 England 1, Hampden Park, Glasgow |
AL |
Start |
rh |
Age 27 |
4 |
89 |
16 February 1907 - England 1 Ireland 0,
Goodison Park, Liverpool |
BC |
HW |
Start |
rh |
5 |
90 |
18 March 1907 - England 1 Wales 1, Craven Cottage, Fulham |
HD |
Start |
rh |
6 |
91 |
6 April 1907 - England 1 Scotland 1, St. James'
Park, Newcastle upon Tyne |
HD |
Start |
rh |
Age 28 |
7 |
92 |
15 February 1908
- Ireland 1 England 3,
Solitude Grounde, Belfast |
BC |
AW |
Start |
rh |
8 |
93 |
16 March 1908 - Wales 1 England 7, Cardiff Arms Park, Cardiff |
AW |
Start |
rh |
9 |
94 |
4 April 1908
- Scotland 1 England 1,
Hampden Park,
Glasgow |
AD |
Start |
rh |
Age 29 |
10 |
95 |
6 June 1908
- Asutria 1 England 6,
Cricketer
Platz, Wien |
tour |
AW |
Start |
rh |
11 |
96 |
8 June 1908
- Austria 1 England 11,
Hohe Warte Stadion, Wien |
AW |
Start
66 |
rh |
12 |
97 |
10 June 1908
- Hungary 0 England 7,
Millenáris Sportpálya, Buda-pesth |
AW |
Start |
rh |
13 |
98 |
13 June 1908 - Bohemia 0
England 4,
Stadión Letná, Praha |
AW |
Start |
rh |
Club: Chelsea F.C. -
9 full appearances |
|
|
14 |
99 |
13 February 1909 -
England 4 Ireland 0,
Horton Park Avenue, Bradford |
BC |
HW |
Start |
rh |
15 |
100 |
15 March 1909 - England 2 Wales 0,
City Ground, Nottingham |
HW |
Start |
rh |
16 |
101 |
3 April 1909 - England 2 Scotland 0,
Sports Arena, Crystal Palace |
HW |
Start |
rh |
Age 30 |
17 |
102 |
29 May 1909 - Hungary 2 England 4,
Millenáris Sportpálya, Buda-Pesth |
tour |
AW |
Start |
rh |
18 |
103 |
31 May 1909 - Hungary 2 England 8,
Millenáris Sportpálya, Buda-Pesth |
AW |
Start |
rh |
19 |
104 |
1 June 1909 - Austria 1 England 8,
Hohe Warte Stadion, Wien |
AW |
Start
|
rh |
Age 31 |
20 |
108 |
11 February 1911 - England 2 Ireland 1,
Baseball Ground, Derby |
BC |
HW |
Start |
rh |
21 |
109 |
13 March 1911 - England 3 Wales 0,
The
Den, New Cross |
HW |
Start |
rh |
22 |
110 |
1 April 1911 - England 1 Scotland 1,
Goodison Park, Liverpool |
HD |
Start |
rh |
Notes
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CG
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