flg.jpg) England Party
to tour
Germany November 1889 |
|
Player |
Birthdate |
Age |
Pos |
Club |
App |
G |
Capt |
|
Original Selection |
|
Bach, Philip |
8 September 1872 |
27 |
RB |
Sunderland AFC |
1 |
0 |
0 |
|
Bassett, William I. |
27 January 1869 |
30 |
OR |
West Bromwich Albion FC |
16 |
5 or 6 |
0 |
|
Brown, E.D |
not known |
nk |
IR |
Clapton
FC |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
Crabtree, James W. |
23 December 1871 |
27 |
HB |
Aston Villa FC |
9 |
0 |
0 |
|
Goodall, John |
19 June 1863 |
36 |
IR |
Derby County FC |
1 |
0 |
0 |
|
Goodall withdrew from the tour at some point |
|
Needham, Ernest |
21 January 1873 |
26 |
LHB |
Sheffield United FC |
12 |
5 or 6 |
0 |
|
Needham had not received permission from his club to take part |
Rogers, Joseph James
no evidence
of James |
1874
no evidence |
nk |
OR |
Newcastle United FC |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
Rothwell, Herbert |
28 February 1877 |
22 |
LB |
Glossop FC |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
Herbert Rothwell declined his invitation on 4 November |
|
Waller, Wilfred Hugh |
27 July 1877
in South Africa |
22 |
GK |
Richmond AFC |
0 |
0ᵍᵃ |
0 |
|
Wreford-Brown, Oswald Eric |
21 July 1877 |
22 |
HB |
Old Carthusians AFC |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
Additional Selection |
|
Barrett, Herbert
Roper |
24 November 1873 |
25 |
LHB |
Casuals AFC |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
Barrett, the tennis player, withdrew from the tour at some point |
|
Briggs, Stanley |
7 February 1871 |
28 |
CHB |
Clapton FC |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
Chadwick, Edgar W. |
14 June 1869 |
30 |
IL |
Burnley FC |
7 |
2 or 3 |
0 |
|
Cox, John D. |
21 October 1867 |
32 |
RHB |
Derby County FC |
1 |
0 |
0 |
|
Forman, Frederick R. |
8 November 1873 |
26 |
OL |
Nottingham Forest FC |
3 |
3 |
0 |
|
Holt, John |
16
October 1866 |
33 |
CHB |
Reading FC |
9 |
0 |
0 |
|
Holt was drafted in as a replacement for the original captain Charlie
Wreford-Brown |
|
Taylor, Stanley Shelbourne |
2 March 1875 |
24 |
IR |
Cambridge University AFC &
Corinthians FC |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
Wilson, Geoffrey P. |
21 February 1878 |
21 |
CF |
Corinthians FC &
'London Hospital' |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
Wreford-Brown, Charlesᶜ |
9 October 1866 |
33 |
CHB |
unattached 'retired' |
4 |
0 |
2 or 3 |
|
original captain Charlie Wreford-Brown withdrew from the tour because
of an injury |
All
information is complete to and including England's last match, the third
of the 1898-99 season, against Scotland on 8 April 1899.
Notes regarding Joe Rogers.... the only
Joseph James born in Coventry occurred in the 1876 summer, and he died
before the next quarter.
Diary
Wednesday, 18 October
1899 - The Football Association, by means of a
circular to all of its clubs, request names to be nominated to
for a team to send to Germany.
Friday, 27 October
1899 - "The International
Selection Committee of the Football Association are bent on
arranging the Internationals, England v. North Germany,
England v. South Germany, and England v. Austria, at the end
of November."
Monday, 6 November 1899 - Charlie Fry and Gilbert Smith
confirm that they cannot undertake the journey.
Glossop captain, Herbert Rothwell, has also declined the
invitation to join the tour.
Saturday, 11 November
1899 -
"It has now been
definitely decided that the English association team which is
to play four international matches in Germany are to appear in
Carlsruhe, Prague, and Berlin, in the order given. According to
the arrangements made, they are to leave London on the 20th
inst., in the evening. A journey of twenty-one hours will
bring them to Carlsruhe, where they are to play the opening
match on Wednesday, the 22nd. The programme, as completed, is:—
November
22.—Carlsruhe.
November
25.—Prague.
November 27,
28.—Berlin. |
|
The second match
at Berlin completes the tour, and the team, leaving on the
following morning (November 29), should reach London just
before eight a.m. on the 30th inst."
Saturday, 18 November
1899 - "Appended is
the revised official programme of the Football Association
Tour in Germany with the names of players and officials:—Monday,
November 20.—The party will meet at Holborn Viaduct Station at
8 p.m., and travel by the 8.45 train (saloon) to Queenborough.
Supper will be served on board the steamer on arriving at
10.30 p.m. Tuesday, November 21.—Arrive Berlin 7 p.m.
(Hotel Monopole). Wednesday, November 22.—Match played in
Berlin in afternoon. Thursday, November 23.—Return match played
in Berlin in afternoon. Friday, November 24.—Leave Berlin 8
a.m.. Arrive Prague 3.10 p.m. (Hotel Cheval Noir). Saturday,
November 25.—Match in Prague in afternoon. Sunday, November 26.—Leave
Prague 8.25 a.m., arrive Stuttgart 8.45 (Hotel Marguardt).
Monday, November 27.—Leave Stuttgart 10.35 a.m., arrive
Carlsruhe 12.32 a.m. (Hotel Germania). Tuesday, November
28.—Match in Carsruhe in afternoon. Wednesday, November
29.—Leave Carlsruhe 11.40 a.m. for home. Thursday, November
30.—Arrive London 7.50 a.m. N.B.—The arrangements between Prague
and Carlsruhe might be altered."
Monday, 20
November 1899 -
"DEPARTURE OF
ENGLISH TEAM FOR
GERMANY.—A large
company assembled at the Holborn Viaduct Station [tonight] to
witness the departure of the English footballers, who travel
via Queenborough and Flushing, to take part in the tour in
Germany. As was feared would be the case, C. Wreford-Brown,
who was present to see the players off, has been prevented
from joining them, owing to not having altogether recovered
from his recent injury, and his place as centre-half will be
filled by J. Holt (the old International centre-half) now of
Reading, while S. S. Taylor, of the Corinthians, has also been
included. The team are accompanied by Messrs J. J. Bentley
(Lancashire), G. S. Sherrington (Suffolk), and Charles J.
Hughes (Cheshire). They received a big ovation as the train
steamed out of the station sharp to time."
"ENGLISH FOOTBALLERS IN
GERMANY
[BY
THE
FREE
CRITIC]
"IT
was a jolly party which left
Holborn Viaduct on Monday night, and had a good
send-off. C. Wreford-Brown, the captain, was on the
platform, but could not make the journey, and another
veteran centre-half, Johnny Holt, now of Reading, took
his place, but we had a representative of the Wreford-Brown
family in a younger brother. The appointed captain
looked sad as he waved his adieu. We soon arrived at
Queenborough and embarked. It is supposed to be a
first-class line of steamers via Flushing, but the
Fleetwood to Belfast boats—our only international sea
voyage—can give them a long start. 4-30 a.m.
quickly arrived, and I can tell you that the early
rising was not highly appreciated. However, it was on
the programme, and the Custom officers gave us but
little trouble. Whether it was the general aspect of
respectability or the overpowering presence of four
formidable representatives of the Council all attached
to badges of original but pleasing design I know that,
but we had little trouble with the Dutch authorities,
and were soon aboard the Berlin express. It was, of
course, quite dark, and when daylight broke many of
us, who are not in the habit of rising before the
streets get well aired, quite appreciated the
unaccustomed sight. There was precious little of
interest besides, and breakfast—the second by the
way—was welcomed. Without good company the ride
must be terribly monotonous, for the country is dead
level, and what are dignified by the name of trees
would make admirable hop poles. Railway guides were
consulted, with the result that we found we should
have an hour in which to stretch our legs at Gennep
(W.E.Z.), but, bless you, we had nothing of the sort.
You see we were down to leave Kissengen at 5-23, and
arrive at Berlin 7 p.m., which meant a matter of
13½ hours in the train, but at Gennep they put
the clock an hour forward, so that we really had only
12½ hours. Those who altered their watches in
accordance with the German time are still prepared to
swear that we travelled from 5-23 to 7, and I am
inclined to believe we did, although my Waterbury
remains undisturbed, and is an hour behind everything
else. When you keep late hours this has its advantage,
but in the morning, when you rise early, say at
half-past eight, you find all the other fellows ready
to go out for a stroll at half-past nine. At Goch the
Custom people were much more inquisitive, but still
got through a lot of work in a very short space of
time, and the wait was much appreciated, for we still
had the matter of nine hours to face. It passed along
fairly pleasantly, although they don't encourage the
refreshment-rooms en route, and we would just be
starting with a cup of coffee—which is invariably very
hot, when the porter would ring a bell and announce in
frightful language that the 'zug' was about to start.
They looked so serious, too, that one did not care to
argue with them, although we occasionally made
complaints in English, and on one occasion a member of
the party was severely admonished, for the gëpack
träger happened to understand our mother tongue—which
was rather unfortunate. There was no lack of
refreshments in the train, and we had luncheon at
eleven o'clock, or by my chronometer, an hour earlier.
However, the time counted as eleven, and at four we
adjourned to afternoon tea. By this time we had
several additions to our zug, and as we were situated
in the rear thereof, and the dining-car was in front,
it was a long trot, but then we felt we were walking
in the direction of Berlin, and making the journey so
much shorter. It was grand exercise, although the
connections between the respective carriages had a
nasty habit of jumping up just when you were about to
step on them. In places the permanent way is not
particularly substantial, but we got along splendidly,
without bestowing any great amount of admiration on
the surrounding scenery. A hill was quite a relief,
and how the inhabitants of the houses reach their
domiciles is a mystery, for in this part of the empire
road-making has not been reduced to a fine art. As a
matter of fact, it has been reduced to nothing.
Hannover was passed, and we were now well on for
Berlin, which was reached, as per my reliable ticker,
65 minutes before time, but according to the other
fellows, we had only five minutes the best of the
clock..." |
|
Tuesday,
21 November
1899 -
"The football match which was to be played here to-morrow
between English and German teams has been postponed until
Thursday. Wednesday is a fast day, and the police, therefore,
refused to allow the match to take place. The second match
against All Germany will probably be played on Friday."
"...AT BERLIN.
"Mr. Bensemann, who originated the trip, was present
with a large number of Henchmen, including C. W.
Alcock, who had gone on before. Three cheers were
awarded us for the pluck and endurance in travelling
22 hours—less the one lost on the German frontier—and I
think we deserved it, but am afraid we did not look a
very sprightly crew. Our hotel, the Monopole, was
close at hand, and soon we were testing the German
waters in the shape of baths, but found that soap was
not included—and in many cases this was rather awkward,
for we generally expect to find something to act as a
lather. Mr. Bensemann seemed to be in great trouble,
for it appeared that Die Polizei had prohibited the
playing of football on the following day, which was a
Saint's day. However, matters were ultimately fixed
up, and Wednesday's match altered to Thursday, whilst
a second game was arranged for Friday morning. This
meant doing nothing on the Wednesday and starting at
ten o'clock on Fridays—afterwards a rush for the train
and a journey of nine hours to Prague. That, however,
was a mere trifle, especially if they will only give
us another hour. But I am determined not to alter my
watch, no matter what happens or what the other
fellows choose to do. I shall have the pull when we
reach England, home, and beauty. We were quite ready
for the dinners which awaited us, and when we marched
in, the band played 'God save the Queen,' and smiled.
They afterwards played all sorts of things, and
continued to smile, but they know how to render
charming music, and I shall never have anything nasty
to say about German bands in future, although they
don't send the real article across to us. I was
informed that our entertainers were Hungarians, but
that is a mere detail. The dinner was splendid, but
they like to be leisurely over it, and ten o'clock had
arrived ere we finished. There was, however, lots of
time, for they don't go to bed at all in Berlin, and
the only excuse we had for not adhering to the custom
of the country was the fact that we had spent 22 hours
on boat and train..." |
|
Wednesday,
Buß- und Bettag, 22 November
1899 - Match postponed.
|
"...Wednesday opened dreadfully wet, but fortunately,
the weather cleared up, and we had a capital drive
around the city. We were all impressed with the modern
beauty of Berlin, and concluded by visiting the
Templehofer Feld, upon which I should imagine the
German army—large as it is—could be placed.
Football was proceeding in full swing, and our boy's
accepted an invitation to play a quarter of an hour's
game with the Victoria. It was a funny match, and
owing to the kindness of Mr. Timbs, who acted as
referee, England suffered her first defeat on German
soil. At night we were entertained by the Academic
Sports Club, and Herr Schricker, a Privy Councillor,
presided. It was the first time that such an important
personage had shown active interest in football, but
the young Schrickers are most enthusiastic. They
certainly gave us a splendid welcome, and an equally
splendid dinner. Most of the speeches were in German,
but there were a number of interpreters amongst the
students, who are a fine intellectual set of young
fellows..." |
|
Thursday,
23 November
1899 -
"It is to be feared that certain of our Continental critics
will attach some political significance to the departure of an
English Association team to Germany at the same time that the
Kaiser is visiting our shores. As a matter of fact, football
relations between the two countries are somewhat strained, and
the German associations have sent something in the nature of
an ultimatum to the English Football Association."
|
"...Thursday morning was spent admiring the city, and
several of us went to see the changing of the guard,
which for simplicity and military precision is a
positive treat. The match was down to commence at two
o'clock, but the brakes went wrong, owing to the
driver's lack of knowledge as to the exact whereabouts
of the new sports' ground or that hour which we had
lost. We certainly had a further view of Berlin, but
it necessitated a delay of 40 minutes. The enclosure
contains a cycle track, in shape something similar to
the one at Olympia a few years ago. There were between
two and three thousand spectators, and as the prices
ranged from five marks to one, with 'kinder
unter fourteen 50 pfennig.' The English had a most
hearty welcome."
- The
Athletic News, Monday, 27 November 1899 |
|
|
England
Form: last six
games |
|
W W W W W W
f 28:a 6
success: 100% |
|
62 |
5 March 1898 -
Ireland 2
England 3
[1-2]
Cliftonville Gardens,
Belfast
(10,000 to 15,000) |
Pyper,
McAllen
Richards, Athersmith, Morren |
BC |
AW |
|
63 |
28 March 1898 -
Wales 0
England 3
[0-1]
The Racecourse, Wrexham
(5,000 to 6,000) |
Wheldon (2),
Smith |
AW |
|
64 |
2 April 1898 -
Scotland 1 England 3
[0-2]
Celtic Park, Glasgow
(39,850) |
Millar
Wheldon,
Bloomer (2) |
AW |
|
65 |
18 February 1899 -
England
13
Ireland
2 [5-0]
Roker Park Ground, Sunderland
(10,000 to 15,000) |
Fk
Forman, Fd
Forman (2), Athersmith,
Smith (4), Bloomer (2), Settle
(3)
McAllen, Campbell |
BC |
HW |
|
66 |
20 March 1899 -
England 4
Wales
0 [2-0]
Athletic Ground, Bedminster
(6,000) |
Needham, Bloomer (2),
Fd Forman |
HW |
|
67 |
8 April 1899 -
England 2
Scotland
1 [2-0]
Aston Lower Grounds, Birmingham
(25,590) |
Smith, Settle
Morgan |
HW |
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