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8 Friday, 24 November 1889
FA Tour of Germany


All Germany 2 England 10
[1-7]

Match Summary
Germany Party
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Team Records

 
 
England Party to tour Germany  November 1889
Player Birthdate Age Pos Club App G Capt
Original Selection
Bach, Philip 8 September 1872 27 RB Sunderland AFC 1 0 0
Bassett, William I. 27 January 1869 30 OR West Bromwich Albion FC 16 5 or 6 0
Brown, E.D not known nk IR Clapton FC 0 0 0
Crabtree, James W. 23 December 1871 27 HB Aston Villa FC 9 0 0
Goodall, John 19 June 1863 36 IR Derby County FC 1 0 0
Goodall withdrew from the tour at some point
Needham, Ernest 21 January 1873 26 LHB Sheffield United FC 12 5 or 6 0
Needham had not received permission from his club to take part
Rogers, Joseph James
no evidence of James
1874
no evidence
nk OR Newcastle United FC 0 0 0
Rothwell, Herbert 28 February 1877 22 LB Glossop FC 0 0 0
Herbert Rothwell declined his invitation on 4 November
Waller, Wilfred Hugh 27 July 1877
in South Africa
22 GK Richmond AFC 0 0ᵍᵃ 0
Wreford-Brown, Oswald Eric 21 July 1877 22 HB Old Carthusians AFC 0 0 0
Additional Selection
Barrett, Herbert Roper 24 November 1873 25 LHB Casuals AFC 0 0 0
Barrett, the tennis player, withdrew from the tour at some point
Briggs, Stanley 7 February 1871 28 CHB Clapton FC 0 0 0
Chadwick, Edgar W. 14 June 1869 30 IL Burnley FC 7 2 or 3 0
Cox, John D. 21 October 1867 32 RHB Derby County FC 1 0 0
Forman, Frederick R. 8 November 1873 26 OL Nottingham Forest FC 3 3 0
Holt, John 16 October 1866 33 CHB Reading FC 9 0 0
Holt was drafted in as a replacement for the original captain Charlie Wreford-Brown
Taylor, Stanley Shelbourne 2 March 1875 24 IR Cambridge University AFC & Corinthians FC 0 0 0
Wilson, Geoffrey P. 21 February 1878 21 CF Corinthians FC & 'London Hospital' 0 0 0
Wreford-Brown, Charlesᶜ 9 October 1866 33 CHB unattached 'retired' 4 0 2 or 3
original captain Charlie Wreford-Brown withdrew from the tour because of an injury

All information is complete to and including England's last match, the third of the 1898-99 season, against Scotland on 8 April 1899.
Notes regarding Joe Rogers.... the only Joseph James born in Coventry occurred in the 1876 summer, and he died before the next quarter.

Diary

Wednesday, 18 October 1899 - The Football Association, by means of a circular to all of its clubs, request names to be nominated to for a team to send to Germany.

Friday, 27 October 1899 -
"The International Selection Committee of the Football Association are bent on arranging the Internationals, England v. North Germany, England v. South Germany, and England v. Austria, at the end of November."

Monday, 6 November 1899 -
Charlie Fry and Gilbert Smith confirm that they cannot undertake the journey. Glossop captain, Herbert Rothwell, has also declined the invitation to join the tour.

Saturday, 11 November 1899 -
"It has now been definitely decided that the English association team which is to play four international matches in Germany are to appear in Carlsruhe, Prague, and Berlin, in the order given. According to the arrangements made, they are to leave London on the 20th inst., in the evening. A journey of twenty-one hours will bring them to Carlsruhe, where they are to play the opening match on Wednesday, the 22nd. The programme, as completed, is:—
November 22.—Carlsruhe.
November 25.—Prague.
November 27, 28.—Berlin.
The second match at Berlin completes the tour, and the team, leaving on the following morning (November 29), should reach London just before eight a.m. on the 30th inst."

Saturday, 18 November 1899 - "Appended is the revised official programme of the Football Association Tour in Germany with the names of players and officials:—Monday, November 20.—The party will meet at Holborn Viaduct Station at 8 p.m., and travel by the 8.45 train (saloon) to Queenborough. Supper will be served on board the steamer on arriving at 10.30 p.m. Tuesday, November 21.—Arrive Berlin 7 p.m. (Hotel Monopole). Wednesday, November 22.—Match played in Berlin in afternoon. Thursday, November 23.—Return match played in Berlin in afternoon. Friday, November 24.—Leave Berlin 8 a.m.. Arrive Prague 3.10 p.m. (Hotel Cheval Noir). Saturday, November 25.—Match in Prague in afternoon. Sunday, November 26.—Leave Prague 8.25 a.m., arrive Stuttgart 8.45 (Hotel Marguardt). Monday, November 27.—Leave Stuttgart 10.35 a.m., arrive Carlsruhe 12.32 a.m. (Hotel Germania). Tuesday, November 28.—Match in Carsruhe in afternoon. Wednesday, November 29.—Leave Carlsruhe 11.40 a.m. for home. Thursday, November 30.—Arrive London 7.50 a.m. N.B.—The arrangements between Prague and Carlsruhe might be altered."

Monday, 20 November 1899 -
"DEPARTURE OF ENGLISH TEAM FOR GERMANY.—A large company assembled at the Holborn Viaduct Station [tonight] to witness the departure of the English footballers, who travel via Queenborough and Flushing, to take part in the tour in Germany. As was feared would be the case, C. Wreford-Brown, who was present to see the players off, has been prevented from joining them, owing to not having altogether recovered from his recent injury, and his place as centre-half will be filled by J. Holt (the old International centre-half) now of Reading, while S. H. Taylor, of the Corinthians, has also been included. The team are accompanied by Messrs J. J. Bentley (Lancashire), G. S. Sherrington (Suffolk), and Charles J. Hughes (Cheshire). They received a big ovation as the train steamed out of the station sharp to time."

Thursday, 23 November 1899 - "It is to be feared that certain of our Continental critics will attach some political significance to the departure of an English Association team to Germany at the same time that the Kaiser is visiting our shores. As a matter of fact, football relations between the two countries are somewhat strained, and the German associations have sent something in the nature of an ultimatum to the English Football Association."
2.40pm, Germany 2 England 13 -
"The Germans commenced in a most determined manner as if they meant to make the most of the start in apprehension of what was likely to follow. However they did not get further than the backs, and presently the Englishmen settled down, and, without appealing to the gallery, gave us football which was thoroughly appreciated by the aristocratic crowd present. The scoring was opened by Chadwick, and after Eichelmann, who is not so big as you would imagine from the length of the name, had saved many shots, Chadwick scored a second, and had a third disallowed. Brown obtained a legitimate point, and another went through apparently off Chadwick's head, whilst Wilson made the total five, and then, after a good run, Jestram scored the first goal for Germany amidst loud cheers. Then Wilson made the total half a dozen, and the interval time arrived. The Germans now had the wind, and Bock promptly notched No. 2, but this was the last bit of comfort they had, for Bassett got in two deadly centres, from which Chadwick and Forman scored. The Bassett added one on his own, double figures were reached from a scrimmage. Brown obtained the eleventh, Wilson made the total a dozen, and Forman put in the final. England winning by 13 to 2.
"The game was, of course, one-sided, and the Englishmen were immeasurably superior, but the Germans were much better than we expected. They are fast and determined, and, once in the run, go all the way. Their movements are somewhat crude, it is true, but they pass well, and, what is better, all along the ground. They never give up, and in charging can quite hold their own, as Holt will probably acknowledge, for he had as much knocking about as he is likely to get. He certainly asked for it, and the Germans did not give way an inch. They are plucky to a degree, and their goalkeeper kept out many shots in capital fashion, whilst the backs kicked strongly, but did not seem able to cope with the efforts of the opposing forwards at close range. E. Schricker was the best on the side, as the captain ought to be, and, a well-built young fellow, he possesses a capital knowledge of the game, and can dribble. The centre forward has not a great idea of combination, and, next to Schrickeer, Jestram played the best game. The Englishmen showed up in a style which was at once pleasing, without being built on exhibition lines. Chadwick was responsible for half a dozen goals, but seven of them were the direct result of Bassett's centres. The little man has not previously taken part in a match this season, but he ran in fine style, and centred with all his old accuracy. Brown fed him extremely well, and the other forwards assisted in capitol fashion. The halves were fully good enough for their opponents, but could not afford to throw much away, for the Germans were always on the alert. The backs were not greatly troubled, but both men played well, and Crabtree several times aroused cheers by his clever movements. Waller was kept out in the cold, and only stopped about four shots, and could hardly be blamed for the two which passed him. We were not at all sorry, for the Germans really deserved to score, and we could well afford a couple. The game apparently gave the utmost satisfaction, and everyone seemed greatly pleased with it. Not only so, but many of the spectators thoroughly appreciated the nice points, and cheered them. One old fashion was observed, and that was when at the finish of the game the English captain, the big and good humored Stanley Briggs, called for three cheers, and this was suspended to in a similar manner by the Germans. After our dinner—how they do feed you in Berlin!—we attended a 'commerse' at the invitation of the Berlin Association. In England we should probably consider it a smoking concert. It was a well-managed affair, as indeed was everything in connection with our visit. The only apprehension one had was whether all the members of the party would survive, for two days we had done a lot, gastronomically. However, it was a case of early to bed on Thursday night, for we had to be up and about before eight o'clock. But I am just off to catch the mail, and must conclude. I hope to be able to forward a brief account of the second match at Berlin, but have ma' doots..."

Friday, 24 November 1899 -
"The 'commerse' turned out to be most enjoyable, and several items on the programme might, with advantage, be introduced in our smoking concerts. One was a grand march around the room headed by the chairman, Herr Bensemann, and it was an extensive compartment, with four long tables, it took a lot of doing. The Germans very wisely took their drinks along with them, and stopped their chant when passing the Englishmen, the finale being the concluding verse, and accompanied by the usual Hoch! Hoch!! Hoch!!! with Germans under the tables. This must not be put down to the usual cause, but to custom. It was one of the best things I have seen in connection with convivial proceedings, and Mr. C. J. Hughes made a most admirable speech in acknowledging the kindness of the Berlin Football Club. We were down to be called early on Friday morning, and had not to keep Berlin time in the matter of going to bed, as at half-past seven Commander-in-Chief Timbs roused us, for we had to be up at the ground at ten o'clock." - The Athletic News, Monday, 27 November 1899

England Form: last six games
W W W W W W  f 28:a 6    success: 100%
62 5 March 1898 - Ireland 2 England 3 [1-2]
Cliftonville Gardens, Belfast (10,000 to 15,000)
Pyper, McAllen
Richards, Athersmith, Morren
BC AW
63 28 March 1898 - Wales 0 England 3 [0-1]
The Racecourse, Wrexham (5,000 to 6,000)
Wheldon (2), Smith AW
64 2 April 1898 - Scotland 1 England 3 [0-2]
Celtic Park, Glasgow (39,850)
Millar
Wheldon, Bloomer (2)
AW
65 18 February 1899 - England 13 Ireland 2 [5-0]
Roker Park Ground, Sunderland (10,000 to 15,000)
Fk Forman, Fd Forman (2), Athersmith, Smith (4), Bloomer (2), Settle (3)
McAllen, Campbell
BC HW
66 20 March 1899 - England 4 Wales 0 [2-0]
Athletic Ground, Bedminster (6,000)
Needham, Bloomer (2), Fd Forman HW
67 8 April 1899 - England 2 Scotland 1 [2-0]
Aston Lower Grounds, Birmingham (25,590)
Smith, Settle
Morgan
HW

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